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Boulder News Forum - May 12, 1997
Thread: "Jameson will not be back"

This is the actual thread dated May 12, 1997 from the Boulder News Forum titled, "Jameson will not be back" which was the day after the "Mother's Day" chat log that outted Jameson as a woman and set the history for all the various stories that have been posted over that years that others said she told them.

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TITLE: jameson will not be back


FROM: a friend EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

they crucified him last night. that is a vicious group of heartless bitches. i hope they all had nightmares. jameson, your pain is my pain and your friendship i will miss.


FROM: to a friend EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Bullshit! IT fried his/her self with lies. jameson is a pathological liar. Are we bitches because we could no longer tolerate the lies? IT will be back under a different hat. Simply put, jameson was rubbing our noses in his/her lies, and we said enough!
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FROM: Please do not return here EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

jameson lied needlessly, but insisted anything he/she/it did was not its fault. There is no need to go into details, but those who stood up for this person many a time are the vicitms here, not jameson. Jmaeson played a vicious game, and it blew up in his/her/it's face.there is no need to ever return here, go to all the other forums and play games.
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FROM: a different friend EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

(Windsor) Faxon, what happened tonight is that I told Jameson it was time to tell the truth about his "secret" identity. that of being a female. It was getting out... lots of people knew. And he/she was starting to really enjoy the whole game. Jameson refused to do it. This all went on in a dcc chat. I said if he didn't, I would. And I did. Then he blamed it all on me, said I had betrayed him/her, and it went from there. She started telling her childhood s
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FROM: ToppCat EMAIL: 10:40 a.m. EDST LOCATION: Eastern PA DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Let me, if I may, set the record straight right off the bat: We have been a group for quite some time, and we share a lot of personal information -- hence, we have come to know each other as cyber-friends. For a long time, I thought I was communicating with another guy -- a guy who met his wife in high school, had kids and loved to take them on outings and camping, etc. All the while, I was being fooled. Now I know this is "cyberspace" and just about anything goes. If someone wants to be someone else, they can do so. But I DO feel that I've had the wool pulled over my eyes on this one. And a lot of people took it personally -- and I do not blame them. NO ONE persecuted Jameson. Lets not bend and twist this story. Whatever Jameson got, he/she or whatever had it coming. It's called Justice -- and it was served on a silver platter last night. Topp
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FROM: Sherlock:) EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I never tried to determine, nor do I care, what sex Jameson is. Make's no difference to me. I like to read what Jameson post. You can't lie in posting a "theory", and I admire his/her intelligent comments. Don't always agree with other posters, but it is very interesting to read any intelligent post. If Jameson doesn't come back to this forum, I for one, think it will be a big loss.
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FROM: more of the story EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997 (jams) The truth is that there should be no divisions in her, not sex, age, race, religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Lori9999) why did you lie about it?
(HomeSch) I am floored too
(Windsor) or think straight
(LogicBox) jams, you dink
(ruthee) jams if that is true, why don't you just tell us..it's no big deal.
(Tannest) Then why ie and say I AM A GENTLEMAN
(LogicBox) you're a woman, so the hell what?
(Windsor) Well, Jams, that might be true... but the way to do that is not to claim to be a man when you are really a woman.
(LogicBox) does that hurt anything?
(LizzieB) good grief
(LH1) I was fooled for a long time
(Windsor) What does it matter, Jameson, if you are a man or a woman...
(LogicBox) yeah, really
(jams) The truth is that there should be no divisions in her, not sex, age, race, religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Tannest) Then dont lie
(LogicBox) don't make me call and ask
(LogicBox) hehe j/k
(LizzieB) But it's a trust issue
(Tannest) Logic!
(Tannest) Be quiet
(Tannest) :)
(LogicBox) I was joking :)
(Lori9999) i don't care if you are a man or a woman, i just don't like to be lied to.
* Tannest pinches Logic
(genie2) ?
(Tannest) Genie
(Windsor) Jams, THE TRUTH IS THERE SHOULD BE TRUTH HERE... AND YOU WERE LYING TO EVEYRONE, AND IT CAUSED SUSPICION ON EVERYONE'S PART.
(Tannest) Did you know?
(ruthee) logic, don't make me laugh
(genie2) mlas
* LogicBox bites Tannest :)
(Tannest) LOL
(jams) The point is that there should be no divisions in here, not sex, age, race, religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Tannest) Oh my God
(ToppCat) jams you're sounding like Ted
(Tannest) He's really a BOT!!!!
(LogicBox) james, you dink, just admit it and let everybody be happy
(Lori9999) you should fucking lie to people who are supposed to be your friends either.
(LogicBox) jams
(LizzieB) If there should be no divisions, jams, why did you set yourself up as a male?
(ruthee) Jams..if you are a female, I will feel better, because then I'll know what was in the pit of my stomach
(Lori9999) shouldn't, i mean
(Texas1) jams..the point is you have lied about your family and your part in their life
(jams) No, What did I tell you about the name jameson
(Windsor) Jameson, get out of here until you can talk like a real person. You're totally out of control, and you have brought all of this on yourself. ALl of it.
(ruthee) jams....I don't care what sex you are
(LogicBox) who says I should kick jams for being a lying dink?
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(LogicBox) not ban, just kick :)
(Tannest) No
(LogicBox) (I'm bored, ok?)
(Tannest) Logic
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(Tannest) :)
(LH2) damn
(Windsor) Hi LH
(LogicBox) let's VOTE!
(LogicBox) hehe
(Tannest) NO
(ToppCat) No don't kick him/her
(Tannest) hehe
(ruthee) no don't kick him
(LogicBox) j/k :)
*** LizzieB sets mode: +o Windsor
(ruthee) please
(LH2) I ALWAYS MISS THE GOOD STUFF :(
(jams) No, What did I tell you about the name jameson
(Tannest) Logic, seriously.... Be good
(Timex) No....don't kink
(blugene) no what's BOT ???
(genie2) Dont kick or ban him please.not now
(Texas1) tell us Jamesomn
(LH2) mo banning pleas
(Tannest) What did you post today about being a Gentleman?
(Tannest) And taking the best Mom out?
(Timex) Jameson....Why did you lie and say you were a man....Here is your chance to set the record straight......
(Tannest) (blugene a BOT is a Robot)
(LogicBox) I think jams is one of those two-way type people
(Windsor) Jams, I don't care if four months ago you never said you were a man... and that people assumed it. I have logs and logs and logs of Cybersleuths conversation where you have lied consistently about being a man. Just today you did.
(ToppCat) Jams, you told me all about meeting your wife in school, your kids and how you like to take them camping, Jesus.
(jams) There is so much going on here -
(LH2) jameson, the problem is you made your sex an issue, you perpetuated the falseness
(LogicBox) jams swings fruity
(NoraNora) Yeah, tell us Jameson. Just come clean!!!
(Windsor) Jams, tell the truth... it will set you free. I promise
(jams) Not the time or place for it all and the pieces...
(genie2) ?
(Tannest) Not the time to tell the truth?
(Lori9999) oh yes this is the perfect time and place.
(jams) Windsor - you broke a promise and I have to really think about that one...
(Texas1) jams..who did you start out as on the Threads?
(ruthee) Jams, I don't care if you are a man, woman, straight gay or whatever, just be up front with everyone
(Windsor) Jams, a simple statement would be fine... something like "I am a woman" would do it.
(Windsor) You don't have to explain why.
(Timex) I am upset that you lied Jams...I will give you this one last chance to tell me, personally why you have lied for 4 months
(NoraNora) No time like the present.
(LH2) why is this not the time or place, when we have been conversing with you for months, and might I add defending you?
(Timex) Windsor told the truth to alot of people who really have trusted each other for 4 months.....Hats off to Windsor Jams.......
(jams) No, look at the wording - I started out saying nothing, everyone assumed I was a man and I carefully worded everything
(Lori9999) don't try to blame this on windsor
(Tannest) But you have lied since then jams
(jams) look at the posts
(Windsor) Jams, I don't care if you are mad at me. I am doing you a favor. I held on to your secret for well over a month. ANd every day new people were coming to me and telling me that YOU told them. Half of them knew it. Half didn't. In the meantime, you lied to everyone. So don't get mad at me... you brought this on yourself. I simply told the truth. Why don't you try the same.
(Tannest) It may have started out as a misconception
(Tannest) But you continued it
(Texas1) jams..do you have a family?
(jams) No Windsor - you have done me no favors - none at all.
(LH2) agreed in the begining jameson, but you have participated explicitly lately
(LogicBox) WIndosr: gee, I knew for 3 or 4 months
(NoraNora) The trouble with you jameson is that male or female, you are a control freak.
(jams) Yes, I can tell you that - a happy marriage of 28 years, the three kids are true -
(ruthee) LOL Nora...you tell um
(Tannest) What 3 kids?
(Tannest) You said two
(Lori9999) why are trying to blame your problem on windsor?
(jams) No, a married daughter, a 19 yr old son and an 8 yr old
(Tannest) Oh
(genie2) Well,I guess that I am the only one in here that isn't a bit surprised and I was told nothing by anyone.
(Tannest) I never heard about the older son
(NoraNora) me either
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(Timex) I guess you are choosing not to answer my question Jams....why?????
(jams) He was there - he lives in VA and is not in and out of the house so I spoke of him less, that is all
(Texas1) Do we really KNOW if jams is male or female? Lies beget lies
(jams) I am female
(Timex) why
(ToppCat) well, jams, I've got to hand it to ya. I'm in shock, but I'm not mad.
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(HomeSch) I just feel bad for jameson.
(NoraNora) Why the masquerade, jameson?
(Windsor) Jams, I agree with the person above who said "don't blame it on Windsor". I am not the one to blame... it was getting to be a big game with you, and it was getting worse every day. You were having fun saying things like "I try to be a gentleman". It was all a crock. I personally do not care if you ever speak to me again. But these people, your friends, do deserve to know that you are a woman.
(jams) No, the participating came after others found out and sometimes
(Timex) Jams.....there may be a very good reason why you wanted us to think you were a man.....I just would like to know that reason
(genie2) Is everyone on here completely honest at all times????
* LogicBox pulls out the Skillz
(Timex) I am genie.....
(Tannest) LOGIC!!!!
(LogicBox) oops
(Windsor) I am
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(jams) I have to leave now - I will not be back
(Lori9999) yes, i am. i have no reason to lie.
(LogicBox) wrong channel ro something
(LogicBox) hehe
(HomeSch) I am
* LogicBox says HI JAMS! :)
(ToppCat) jams, don't
(LogicBox) jams
(Windsor) you chicken shit, Jameson
(blugene) don't do that
(LogicBox) du0d
(ToppCat) JAMS, DON'T
(LogicBox) stay here
(ruthee) Well genie, I have to tell you that I am..but maybe it's because I'm a little older
(LH1) jameson, I am so sorry you feel that way and cannot deal with this

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FROM: Lori EMAIL: @Heartless Bitch LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Crucified??? I didn't see you coming to the defense of that sick individual. Maybe you aren't the friend that you profess to be. I haven't posted here in a long time but this thread was just too tempting since I was fortunate enough to witness Jameson's pififul attempt to cover her lies with more lies and dramatic fantasy. I now have a better understanding of the true sickness that has consumed this person. The thing that upsets me the most has nothing to do with gender. I could care less about the sex of Jameson. The part that angers me to no end is that I heard no remorse for the deception that she so diligently documented on every available space on the Internet. I heard no apology to the people who have stood by her when no one else would, nor did I hear a reasonable explanation for why she chose to lie about virtually every aspect of her life. All I heard a whole lot of blame and a whole lot of bullshit. Still laughing!!!!!!
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FROM: The joke's still on you! EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
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FROM: The joke's still on you! EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
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FROM: The joke's still on you! EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
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FROM: IS THIS A JOKE? EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

(ToppCat) well, now it's out
(jams) I did speak to people about the case
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(jams) Boulder people
(NoraNora) Oh jesus, jams you are so heavily into your own denial, why should we believe anything you say.
(jams) Don 't Nora - I don't need that from anyone
(genie2) I believe,now let her continue.
(jams) that was not why I ever came
(ToppCat) go on, jams
(Timex) Alright Jams.....we have been together for 4 months....every single day.....who are you?
(jams) I saw the night - that was why I came
(Tannest) You what?
(jams) Timex - what do you want to know
(ToppCat) you saw the night?
(Lori9999) scuse me?
(HomeSch) You mean in a psychic sense?
(jams) I don't know
(ToppCat) wow
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(jams) but I had to follow the case -
(Lori9999) you saw the night, explain
(Timex) People know Timex as a mom of 3 children...lives in Massachusetts......etc. , etc.,
(Timex) Who are you?
(Texas1) jams what did you "see" that night?
(jams) I have never done anything like this - mothers intuition but not llike this
(jams) I can't say it - it was like a fog thing -
(genie2) Jams,who did you think I was?
(jams) but this was before I ever came in here - or on the computer
(jams) I was in the shower
(jams) genie?
(ToppCat) like a vision?
(jams) No, like a memory
(jams) very upsetting
(jams) I really do not know what to say
(jams) I am not psychic
(ToppCat) interesting. JBR's killing was like you were remembering something?
(jams) But it was because of the past - the pedophile I knew was a stalker too
(genie2) jams,excuse me but could you elaborate a mite more on the snakes and the barn?
(jams) that is very upsetting - what do you want to kn ow
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(genie2) Everything that you would like to share with me.
(Lori9999) upsetting to me is how you can worship at the foot of the killers everyday if what you are telling us is true.
(Tannest) It makes no sense jams/sue
(jams) I said it - he hurt me - tortured me in many ways - snakes were something I feared and he used them
(Tannest) ?
(ToppCat) That's why you can't picture the parents, isn't it jams. Becuase of your past history with a predator yourself.
(jams) the Ramseys are innocent
(Edge) ?
(jams) No - hell no
(genie2) were you bit?
(jams) no
(jams) cut
(Edge) Based on Douglass
(jams) and burn ed
(Timex) with a cigarette?
(jams) yes
(Edge) ?
(blugene) then why is it you don't think R's did it?
(genie2) Edge what are you talking about?
(Tannest) How can that assure you they didn't do it though?
(jams) ask now guys - I don't think I will be back and I want you to hear it from me
(ruthee) jams you seem to think that this has something to do with your views on this case..I can understand someone who thinks that they are innocent, they may well be...why all the lies...it just doesn't make sense.
(jams) No, I felt the killer as he was in the basement -
(Edge) John Douglass - FBI Behavioural Science Profiling
(Timex) Jams.....did you talk on the phone to Hmmmmm
(jams) yes
(Tannest) jams, I think we all can feel we can see our scanario
(Timex) was he shocked?
(Tannest) I know I can think about it and see Patsy doing it?
(Tannest) Where is the difference?
(genie2) jams,what in the hell do you want us to ask,just talk,you have the floor and our undivided attention.
(jams) no Tannest - that is what I saw before reading anything - just hearing the first newa
(ToppCat) agreed, genie
(Tannest) I don't see any difference still jams
(jams) genie -
(genie2) yes?
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(jams) I am not related to Ramsey - n ever heard of them before this
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(ToppCat) Lisa!
(jams) not working for them
(genie2) On this I believe.
(faxon_) whoever left that note on the threads thanks
(Lori9999) i want to know what the hell makes you think they are innocent when everything
(Tannest) How many hours a day do you spend posting on all the various forums?
(Lori9999) points to them
(ruthee) jams, when you say "just ask" my red flag goes up again..we ask..you tell another "story"...stop it.
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(jams) too much Tannest - and the thoughts wake me at night
(jams) ruthee - I gave names and dates earlier - verify whatever you want
(Tannest) Maybe you are seeing a different crime jams?
(LH1) Lisa, you came in on the middle of something, just listen for a while and then we'll catch you up
(NoraNora) And your husband, jams, where is he?
(genie2) jams,keep on trucking,cause my profile is getting more clear each moment.
(jams) genie - fuck your profile - I won't be here to know
(Tannest) Maybe what you are seeing is the murder of one of the other missing children???
(jams) Jim is right here
(genie2) Bad attitude!
(jams) no -
(blugene) was you abuser ever caught
(ToppCat) hold on now jams, lets all take a breather here
(LH1) jams, no offense but names and dates mean nothing as far as the veracity of your story
(jams) he said her name
(Tannest) Because your theory and visions don't correlate in the least with the known facts
(Lori9999) agree tannest totally
(LogicBox) Tannest
(LogicBox) hi :)
(jams) LH - I said to verify my personal story
(Lori9999) so who did you see? who is the killer?
(genie2) How can we verify your personal story?
(LH1) whether you held that position and had a brother die in Vietnam says nothing about what you are saying now
(jams) I know no name
(ruthee) jams, why don't you change your name to something gender neutral..post your opinions and go on with your views on chat and the theads...Personally, I am not interested in anymore "history" on why you have posted in the past.
(Tannest) Why would we want to?
(jams) no, I have to go
(genie2) jams,that word you used f was the first nasty word that you have used on here.
(Texas1) Tannest...sorry but I disagree...The facts are too scarce to know what happened that night
(jams) yes genie - did you think I couldn't use them?
(jams) This was safe for me - but it doesn't feel it now
(Lori9999) where were your parents during all this burning and cutting etc.
(blugene) was your abuser caught?
(NoraNora) How about the restraining order against you jams, TRUE?
(jams) My father was paralyzed and my m other worked
(jams) restraining order for the car wash? true
(ruthee) Oh GOD, when does it end!
(jams) so stupidd
(Timex) When you stabbed him did he die
(genie2) Well it doesnt fit what I had down in your profile.but hey i can be a little mistaken.I still dont believe that you use them readially
(jams) no
(Lori9999) carwash????
(ToppCat) A car wash restraining order?
(ToppCat) lori
(LizzieB) ???
(ruthee) TC don't make me laugh
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(COlady) I missed that one, must have been a scroll by
(Texas1) WHO put this on the Treads so quickly? Think there is a spy among us
(jams) it was a stupid thing all around
(ToppCat) really, tex?
(ToppCat) oh boy
(jams) I believe it
(ruthee) This is on the theads...???

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FROM: someone who cares EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

My dear friends. I really don't care that Jameson is a woman. I spoke to her on the phone awhile back. ( sorry jams to break your trust but the truth needs to be told. ) All of you who flame her hear this. She is a bright, thoughtful, smart woman. she has been a victim of abuse/attack and has a stalker after her. ( she has lived in fear and moved out of state due to this person) thus when it was assumed she was male ( due to her unemotional responses) she never corrected them. she then carefully picked her words to not lie but to not give away her identity. then after some idiot posted her address she was afraid wouldn't you be if somone had been stalking your family and threatening to kill you or your family. ( the people who posted her personal information never thought about the fact this wa s a real person , with a life and a family ) Because she has a professional backround and is very clear cut... she took alot of shit.. yes she was wrong to let the innocent deceiving go on. but that in itself is minimal compared to the rest of the harrassement she took back.. just for having an opinion that was different. I think you would be hard pressed to find a mean attack back from her on these threads. ( oh sure there are imitations few of us have escaped them) Next time you want to make trouble or persecute someone.. think about the fact that we are real here. some of us have a hard time in our life, sick children or spouses, financial woes etc.. have a heart. The only reason i will not put my regular post is that I don't want the vicious flaming. Go ahead Murphy call me a coward. Be self assured about why anyone would not want to post their real information. then ask yourself if you had been a victim of a stalker int he past and he was after you... would you be so free witht he information.
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FROM: Recently Hatless EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Why do I get the feeling this is all BS? Jameson with the eyeglasses, the person that posts all over the internet, the person whose ISP account in North Carolina is registered to two people (a man and a woman), is actually a woman? The person who homeschools, gives recipes for freezing bugs in resin, repeats himself over and over and hardly ever gives any personal details and resides in a closed chat room on NewNet SUDDENLY went over to DALNET and spilled her guts? Made a gender change? Are you guys really that desperate for interaction or entertainment? At least please quit posting these stupid logs on the main threads. THIS is your thread. Stick to it. PLEASE. The forum is already sick and feeling poorly.
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FROM: Flower EMAIL: To: More LOCATION: Dallas DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

More, thanks for posting this. Don't know how you did it so I'm in awe right there but also, you did a great service to those of us who were not in- volved in that coversation. What a neat forum where you can instantly talk back and forth. It must be one of the irc things? From all the posts I've seen here regarding irc I have not been inclined to try it. Wish I had last night, tho' as I would've had things to say! Would be nice if "Jameson/jams" could come to the forum with hat in hand and be totally honest. I will say that I have been and will continue to be and expect no less from others...including Jameson who lied and misrepresented her identity and played a game while constantly flaming others. I find her actions beneath reproach and I feel decieved and wonder what someone's motivation would be to deliberately mislead, truly no defense and it was all with knowledge and forthought. I feel a sense of betrayal. And it goes beyond Jameson, it goes also to those who enabled her to lie and trick and conive. Those of you who knew are guilty too. Shame on you! Why did you know and remain silent and enable the bogus hat/sex/game/ideas/attitudes to continue? Me thinks you perhaps got a perverse pleasure yourself? Kudos to those who are honest and to the degree that you exposed Jameson for the total deception I thank you. To those who enabled her for so long it is another deception and makes me doubt your veracity as well. This all makes me feel shoddy, cheap and easily deceived and duped...all negative feelings...along with gulllible and stupid. So what have I gotten involved in and am I just ignorant? Lots of the theories of "Jameson" were bright and interesting and logical. Too bad they now carry no weight for we are simply dallying in make believe. I had thought this something grander than that. Was I wrong again? Perhaps I should rethink the time and energy I have spent on these threads and put my time to better use. The more I think of it the worse I feel.
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FROM: Upset !!!!! EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

To someone who cares ! Give us a break ! If this jameson person was SO scared of a stalker, and all the info he/she gave to people, it wouldn't be hard to figure he/she out ! If jameson is really telling the truth about his/her abuse, I truely feel bad for he/she BUT, as far as the others who knew this, you yourselves having also been lying, by STILL letting others believe.
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FROM: *** EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

In my humble, yet accurate opinion, Jameson has a legitimate need to unburden him/herself. Disclosing an abusive past is often the first step to recovery. I will never know whether s/he is telling the truth, s/he may not know either. I doesn't matter very much at this point. Jameson needs professional help. This is not intended as a flame. By encouraging (or responding to) Jameson to vent on this forum or any other discussion vehicle, you are enabling Jameson to continue with his/her "acting out" behavior instead of seeking competent help. Again, this post is not intended as a flame. Rather as a plea to ignore Jameson and more or less force him/her to seek the type of help that is truly needed and would be beneficial.
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FROM: *** EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

In my humble, yet accurate opinion, Jameson has a legitimate need to unburden him/herself. Disclosing an abusive past is often the first step to recovery. I will never know whether s/he is telling the truth, s/he may not know either. I doesn't matter very much at this point. Jameson needs professional help. This is not intended as a flame. By encouraging (or responding to) Jameson to vent on this forum or any other discussion vehicle, you are enabling Jameson to continue with his/her "acting out" behavior instead of seeking competent help. Again, this post is not intended as a flame. Rather as a plea to ignore Jameson and more or less force him/her to seek the type of help that is truly needed and would be beneficial.
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FROM: Ruthie EMAIL: Pacific 10:00 LOCATION: CA DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I assume that if you don't know or are not interested in Jameson, you will not be reading this thread. To those to whom jameson spoke in confidence on whatever subject..I respect you for keeping that confidence. I feel much better for that. You did me no dis-service..you have re-established my belief that there are those who stick by their word. Windsor..The above comment was not directed in anyway to you. I know that you discussed this matter with jameson before you said anything to anybody. It seems to me that when many people are told of a confidence and instructed to keep it to themselves, it ceases to be a confidence. To their credit, those whom I consider friends did not mention anything about jameson to me, even though I continually expressed reservation about him. Windsor even got on my butt one time when she thought I was out of line with a statement I made and she was right to do so. Jameson, these people had respect for you and it seems that you have no respect for them..that's the really sad part. It's not the lies and deciet, this is the internet, it is the lack of respect for those you feel you come to know. I recently had a small health problem, and I can't tell you how much support and good wishes I got from my friends here. Of course, I have a family and friends, but this forum and chat is just another plus in my life. I always know that I can come here and get a good laugh, or get my brain working on analyzing this case. Those that disagree with me make me think. Jams, I still believe you are a male..what I think doesn't make any difference...What does make a difference is I don't believe, and have never believed, that you care one iota about anyone but yourself. That's ok....as long as I know it..our relationship will be just fine.
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FROM: Teacher EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I suspected long ago that jameson was really a woman. Too many aspects of the story did not add up. I have heard quite a few yarns on the Internet. However, jameson constantly claimed to be telling the truth about everything. I think this has been just one big game to her. I do not think she was even that sincere about the Ramsey defense. She just took the opposite side early on and stubbornly refused to even see a possibility that the Ramseys might be guilty. It was all ego with her, and she enjoyed making others upset or angry. She was behind much of the flaming of me, early on. It is hard for me to feel sorry for jameson. When you practice deceit, it usually catches up with you. We all have a right to privacy. But jameson was and is a game player. It is seldom appreciated in real life or online. She will be back though. This is her addiction. She cannot do without it. If not this forum, some other. If not this game, some other. She likes to fool people. And she likes to make enemies by arguing and putting forth ideas that really make little sense. Now that even the Ramseys are claiming a "well-dressed adult" did this, her theory is sinking. Her ego will not let her hang around for that.
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FROM: Suzanne H. EMAIL: LOCATION: USA DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I thought this forum was suppose to be about the Ramsey case - not the "Jameson Case" - who cares if he/she is gone or whatever. Lets get on with the Ramsey case!!!!!!
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FROM: Suzanne H. EMAIL: LOCATION: USA DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I thought this forum was suppose to be about the Ramsey case - not the "Jameson Case" - who cares if he/she is gone or whatever. Lets get on with the Ramsey case!!!!!!
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FROM: confused EMAIL: LOCATION: east coast DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Who is Jameson? What is their connection to JBR? Can someone explain?
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FROM: Jade EMAIL: IMHO LOCATION: A small foreign FICTION DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Hi, Personally, I am happy to say that whether or not Jameson is a man/woman/it has not affected my life one iota. No one here is perfect (although some hold themselves up to be), so if Jameson is that messed up, ignore him/her/it. Take his/her/it's posts for what value they add to the forum, or don't read them at all. It sounds like some people are personally offended because they considered Jameson a "friend" - Welcome to Cyberspace - where all things are "possible". Use this as a lesson for future such "friendships". And of course, we have that group of folks who are just waiting to pounce on someone for something, anything - whether it be simple as spelling/grammar or whether it be a more complex issue such as identity. I don't know Jameson, I've read many of his/her posts, and while they seem intelligently written, I don't agree with much he/she says. But who cares? If those of you who cannot forgive what Jameson may or may not have done, then don't respond. Why waste your time on someone you cannot agree with? It seems that Jameson is one mixed up kid and I feel sorry for him/her that she/he is such a mess. Beyond that, it's not worth it...think about it. There is NO ONE on this forum who is worth the effort of "crucifying" except of course, the killer(s) of JonBenet (and I'm sure they, or their representatives do some lurking). God rest her soul.
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FROM: Bushy Haired Stranger EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

to confused: jameson was not connected to the case in any way, but merely a cybergeek who took these opinion forums way too seriously. lonliness makes people do weird things.
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FROM: CRYIN' SHAME EMAIL: LOCATION: Denver, CO DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

What in the holy h*** are you all yapping about re. Jameson and his/her gender? Did I miss something over the weekend, and if I did, why has this forum turned into a kindergarden class with everyone picking on the funny little kid in the corner with the glasses? Surprised to see the return of Teacher, if it is indeed her, and I certainly remember the mountains of vitriolic, senseless drubbing he/she took...you're right, poster above somewhere. We all know there are lonely and perhaps disturbed ppl on the old internet, and why fuel the fire? About the Ramsey case---and frankly not interested. It has been a deeply disturbing case that appears to be going nowhere, don't trust the DNA will do diddly-squat, and I'm going to devote my time to work and my family (five kids). May post occasionally, but my heart's not it anymore---
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FROM: Lar EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

To say that the incoherent postings above are a rather blatant example of the puerile,hebephrenic cult of the personality that goes on on the Internet day after day, would only be to state the obvious. What incredibly sick individuals. They lurk, they wear a hundred different hats, they love to watch others talk about them. You people are so pathetic. A whole world to live in and grow, and yet you spend all your time and energy trying to get the attention of a keyboard. The only surprise left is that all of you haven't bored yourselves to death yet. Or, maybe you have. The expression, "...get a life," was never so appropriate. Afraid to use your real names, attempting to impress the other moronic anal sphincters who inhabit this netherworld of how cultured you are, how witty you are, how droll you are. How pathetic you are.
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FROM: To: Lar EMAIL: LOCATION: Back at ya DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

To say that the incoherent postings above are a rather blatant example of the puerile,hebephrenic cult of the personality that goes on on the Internet day after day, would only be to state the obvious. What incredibly sick individuals. They lurk, they wear a hundred different hats, they love to watch others talk about them. You people are so pathetic. A whole world to live in and grow, and yet you spend all your time and energy trying to get the attention of a keyboard. The only surprise left is that all of you haven't bored yourselves to death yet. Or, maybe you have. The expression, "...get a life," was never so appropriate. Afraid to use your real names, attempting to impress the other moronic anal sphincters who inhabit this netherworld of how cultured you are, how witty you are, how droll you are. How pathetic you are.
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FROM: To pathetic EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I don't notice your "real" name anywhere, and who are you to judge others? You are here. You obviously know something about it. Maybe you are talking to yourself, as much as to others on the forum. If you do not like it here, go elsewhere. But you will find hypocrites, liars, pretenders, pranksters, etc. everywhere. As well as some nice, normal people. Just like here.
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FROM: Innocent bystander EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

One of the most interesting aspects of Cyber life is the ability to be whoever you want, creating your own history over and over again if that is what you choose. I applaud those who are brave enough to be who they really are for the unseen masses. But there are many crazies among the masses and I am not willing to take that risk. Sorry. And whoever betrays personal information about another should be kicked til they're black and blue! Shame on you.
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FROM: No Name By Choice EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

As a person who has been the victim of abuse it saddens me to think that someone with a real problem wouldn't get help. And if the person is faking abuse in order to cover a lie, please stop now. It's an insult to those of us who have really suffered. I do post here once in awhile but prefer to make this plea anonymously. Have a heart and get help if you need it, Jameson.
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FROM: Ruthie EMAIL: Pacific 5:15 pm LOCATION: CA DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Lar, and anyone else who came to this thread to tell me how pathetic I am. I thought the title of this thread read "jameson will not return". I'm going to have to go back and check. It may have read "Latest News On Ramsey Case".
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FROM: Can't We All Get Along? EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Is Lar attacking ALL members of the forum? I doubt it, Ruthie. I think Lar was referring to the Jameson mess. Lar has put some good posts on here and you have also, Ruthie.
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FROM: =^.^= EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

If you'll think about it, Lacking All Respect for the other cyber individual's opinion has been always been LAR's nom de guerre. go back and look at the archives....the vault is full of these poison keyboard artists.
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FROM: MWOH EMAIL: LOCATION: Aurora DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

I always thought jameson was a husband-and-wife partnership. I don't care whether he leaves or stays, nor do I care to believe or disbelieve the confidences on this board. The topic of this forum is the case, and would prefer to keep it that. If you wish to scream out for help, there are plenty of chat areas and newsgroups where you can find sincere people for help (if you are indeed sincere). Coming here is a bit like yelling for help on a street corner.
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FROM: Agree EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

MWOH -- I too think of this forum as solely a place to discuss the case. I do not come here to make friends or to reveal or hear "confidences." I prefer to choose my friends on a "face-to-face" basis that at least allows me a fair shot at evaluating their character because I can "look them in the eye." I am puzzled by the apparent outrage by some that jameson may not have been what he/she claimed to be. Once again, it illustrates a certain naivete about the ways of the internet. It is truly a medium where anyone can be anything or many things... This is not to condemn people who choose to build "friendships" in cyberspace. However, if you choose this medium, then you must be prepared for the many disappointments that may result.
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FROM: Observer for months EMAIL: New Hat LOCATION: Tired of flames DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

We are all on the ship of fools. How foolish it is when fingers are pointed at each other in accusations. Of what consequence are the words that come through the telephone wire and come before you. Do you believe everything you read? Would you allow a stranger to come into your house and throw their opinions and personal baggage all over the place? Would you let them rob you of that which is personal and valuable to you? How easily the rules of prudence are overlooked on this medium. How easily words can assault and rob ....and the door is left wide open in invitation.
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FROM: Ski Hat EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Gee, I wish I'd said that.
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FROM: 36 DD EMAIL: To: all LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference does it make if she lies or tells the truth about anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE. If you set yourself up to consider yourself "friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
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FROM: 36 DD EMAIL: To: all LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference does it make if she lies or tells the truth about anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE. If you set yourself up to consider yourself "friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
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FROM: 36 DD EMAIL: To: all LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference does it make if she lies or tells the truth about anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE. If you set yourself up to consider yourself "friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
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FROM: Dianne E.* EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Observer, you are so right. I, too am tired of the mean flames by those twisted little souls who get their jollies that way. On the other hand, I now feel much less naive about some of my fellow human beings - if you can call them that. Still, aren't you glad you're NOT one of them? If life dealt you some brains and sensitivity, unlike those sorry bastards, you're the lucky one. Jameson dumped a whole lot of tripe on this forum and gets no sympathy from me.
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FROM: I still think EMAIL: Jameson LOCATION: is DATE: Monday May 12, 1997

Jon Ramsey and the graphic symbols stand for Access Graphics. This individual's position on the what happened to JonBenet just didn't add up. I think it was stated one time the JonBenet had a fake vigina.
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FROM: Dianne E. EMAIL: LOCATION: 9:50PM pdt DATE: Tuesday May 13, 1997

Jameson will leave the forum, yeah right, have they also taught pigs how to fly yet? Lets talk about the case and if you don't like what someone says, well use your scroll key for the intended purpose. It is an opinion forum now a guess the poster.
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FROM: Bev EMAIL: LOCATION: P acific NW DATE: Tuesday May 13, 1997

I found this forum a week ago. You see, I've only had a computer for 3 weeks now. I am in my 50's and was excited to learn these dang things. I am disappointed in this forum. I too am interested in the JBR case and thought this would be newsworthy. Unfortunately, I could go to the grade school here and find more respect for others. Flaming is something I had only heard about until finding this forum. I've read where others would like those of us who visit here to make comments. Well, this will probably be my only comment. I did not come here to make friends or get into others life history (true or not). I also did not come to this forum to hear flaming about people I do not know or probably ever get to know. I have no desire to go to the archives and read about this person who has disappointed so many of you. If this is not going to be about the Ramsey case then I guess I will look elsewhere. The rest of you who are regulars can cry on each other's shoulder and flame each other to your hearts content.
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FROM: To Bev EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Tuesday May 13, 1997

Friggin' newbie...go soak your inflated head.
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FROM: Dunce Hat EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Tuesday May 13, 1997

I have to ask this---is Jameson the person who posted the terrible porn junk on here about---oh 4-6 weeks ago? The Teacher/Jayne character? It's kind of a need-to-know-the-worst thing.
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