0001 1 _________________________________________________ 2 3 IN THE MATTER OF: 4 5 6 INTERVIEW WITH JOHN RAMSEY 7 8 _________________________________________________ 9 10 11 TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW 12 13 VOLUME 1 OF 4 14 PAGES 1 - 246 15 16 17 18 19 JUNE 23RD, 1998 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 0490 through 0495 ONLY this transcript: 0490 1 MIKE KANE: Okay. 2 LOU SMIT: I got a couple of 3 things. How about Jamison? 4 JOHN RAMSEY: She called me. I 5 mean I have heard of her, I heard she is a 6 supporter and so forth, but I have never looked 7 at her Web site. And she called me once in 8 Atlanta, and we -- this was maybe a month or two 9 ago, and I told her, I said I have always kind 10 of wanted to write you and thank you for being a 11 supporter, but I am sorry. 12 She said well, I would like to talk 13 to you, and I said well, hope you want her to 14 come to our house, because we didn't want her to 15 be there, it might be hard to (INAUDIBLE) we met 16 her for a cup of coffee and just little things 17 familiar with. (INAUDIBLE). That was I don't 18 know, a month or two ago. 19 LOU SMIT: Her name is Sue 20 Bennett, your name is Bennett? 21 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. 22 LOU SMIT: Is there any 23 relationship? 24 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't think so, I 25 had a cousin named, I was thinking what was her 0491 1 name, I haven't seen her in years and years and 2 years, but her name was, at least her maiden 3 name was, they call her Susie Bennett or, it was 4 close enough to think I wonder if it could be my 5 cousin, but it wasn't. 6 LOU SMIT: So when you met 7 with her there was no relationship 8 established like cousins or -- 9 JOHN RAMSEY: No. I just 10 mentioned that my middle name was Bennett, 11 JonBenet was named after me. 12 LOU SMIT: And you never had 13 contact with her before personally or on 14 the Internet or anything like that or can 15 you -- 16 JOHN RAMSEY: No, no, I 17 never did. She had written us a letter 18 once, I remember a letter because it said 19 Jamison, a/k/a Sue Bennett. That was 20 maybe a year ago. 21 LOU SMIT: So you have put 22 nothing on the Internet through her name 23 or anything like that? 24 JOHN RAMSEY: No. She said I 25 could if I wanted to, but that was one of the 0492 1 things she offered, if you want to get -- 2 LOU SMIT: Just recently? 3 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, a month or so 4 ago, yeah. In fact, she called the other day 5 and along with Steven or whatever his name, 6 Jeffrey Shapiro, so we changed our phone number. 7 I mean she is a nice person, and -- 8 BRYAN MORGAN: I missed that, she 9 called with Jeffrey? 10 JOHN RAMSEY: No, they had both 11 called. Somehow -- I was more concerned about 12 the fact that Jeffrey Shapiro had our phone 13 number. But we changed the number anyway so. 14 MIKE KANE: Let me follow up on 15 this. How did you know about her? 16 JOHN RAMSEY: I guess I started to 17 hear about her from friends that, Susan Stine, I 18 don't remember, Susan checked some of that 19 stuff, the Internet stuff. I think it just kind 20 of started coming out that she was is a 21 supporter. And we just started hearing about 22 her. 23 MIKE KANE: You said you didn't 24 have any direct contact. How about indirect, 25 through others? 0493 1 JOHN RAMSEY: No. 2 MIKE KANE: No? 3 JOHN RAMSEY: No. We had gotten a 4 couple of messages from her through my brother's 5 sister-in-law who apparently had communicated 6 with her a few times. 7 MIKE KANE: (INAUDIBLE)? 8 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. 9 MIKE KANE: When you met her for 10 coffee, where was that? 11 JOHN RAMSEY: It was at a coffee 12 shop in the neighborhood, Moonbeam Coffee Shop. 13 MIKE KANE: She came down? 14 JOHN RAMSEY: Uh-hum. She was 15 in Atlanta with her family to go to Six Flags. 16 MIKE KANE: Is she from that area? 17 JOHN RAMSEY: She is from North 18 Carolina, I think. 19 MIKE KANE: What did she want to 20 talk about? 21 JOHN RAMSEY: I really don't know. 22 I mean she seemed to be more concerned about 23 what the tabloids were saying about us. And she 24 said I know what they are going to attack you 25 on, you know. You know, we don't care, I mean 0494 1 the tabloids are -- makes us angry, but it's 2 not of concern to us, in terms of I mean if it 3 had been The New York Times, I guess, if they 4 had come out with some big story, it might be 5 more concerning, but I think she was just -- 6 just felt genuine concern for us, and our 7 polite. 8 MIKE KANE: Do you know why? 9 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't. No. 10 MIKE KANE: Did she seem -- 11 JOHN RAMSEY: Mostly. 12 VOICE: (INAUDIBLE). 13 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, anybody that 14 could sit on a computer for a hundred hours a 15 day or whatever she does, no way I am going to 16 -- sorry. 17 VOICE: Remember you still do those 18 things. 19 (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.) 20 JOHN RAMSEY: I mean she obviously 21 she is obsessed with it, but she mostly seemed 22 pretty normal. She had a child and she home 23 schooled, she mentioned that. 24 MIKE KANE: Have you ever given her 25 anything of value, besides the -- 0495 1 JOHN RAMSEY: No. Money-wise, no. 2 MIKE KANE: Or anything besides 3 money that's of value? 4 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I mean, I wanted 5 to write her and just thank her for being one of 6 our few supporters, and just kind of an 7 opportunity to -- I didn't want to blow her 8 off, you know, I just didn't feel that was 9 appropriate. 10 MIKE KANE: Why didn't you write 11 her? 12 JOHN RAMSEY: I didn't know where 13 to write her for starters. I had a letter from 14 her, there were hundreds and hundreds that we 15 kept, you know. Just something I was always 16 going to do tomorrow. 17 LOU SMIT: I can't think of 18 more --