I have hesitated sending anything into this formum,but I kind of figure I have nothng to lose, especially since I used an alias.

Last summer, Patsy Ramsey and I were both enrolled in the same aerobics class.in Boulder. I had been going to the class for a long time and knew a lot of the "regulars." When Patsy joined, we all made a real attempt to make her feel welcome.

A couple things stick in my mind: One, she went to coffee with a few of us only once, and spent most of the time looking worried and distracted. I could tell we didn't have a lot in common--she was sweet, but I couldn't get much substance out of her.

Second point: one day her car broke down and she chose to call John R. rather than a garage. She rarely spoke of him, and from what I had heard, he detested being bothered at work. Patsy called him on her cell phone and started crying re. her car. I kept thinking, what's the big deal? What kind of response are you getting from this guy, and if you thought you would get a negative one, why not just call a garage?

John Ramsey came to studio to pick up Patsy. He looked grim, put-out, and gave her a perfunctory hello. He did not bother even looking at me-- Patsy left, teary-eyed and appologizing profusely. I kept thinking, get some balls. woman! I found Patsy sweet and John cold, removed, reproachful. Have wondered if she was the victim of abuse her- self.
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sorry I did not get on yesterday or earlier today to answer any questions after discussing taking aeorbics dance class with Patsy Ramsey. Felt ill; am just slightly rebounding after some bug.

Sorry I can not add more about Patsy--as I said yesterday a.m., her affect was sweet and I frankly did not know she had a daughter in beauty contests. She was not what I would call a part- curlarly chatty member of the club; I just found it very interesting that John Ramsey's affect was so nasty when he came to pick her up after class when her car broke down--She wouldn't take me up on an offer to drive her and she wouldn't call a garage, yet she told me John would "hate being interrupted." As I said yesterday, John R. was rude, perfunctory, and hardly sympathetic to her plight. She left teary-eyed, they didn't speak.

However, I do have two things to add: one in reference to questions about feeling tone in Boulder: Boulder residents are generally furious that more news is not coming their way--we receive as much information as you do. People seem split on Ramsey's guilt--consensus seems to be that there is complicity on both Ramseys' part--but that somehow John killed his daughter and wife too frightened to come forward. Other people swear there's a "killer on the loose" and that no one as "rich" as the Ramsey's could possibly be involved in such a matter. Some logic, huh? I would also like to relay a fairly humorous story amidst all this horror--

A family member worked for John Ramsey's co. He told us of a time when John called in the entire division in which this person was in a management division. John had a list of complaints re. division's "free usage" of office supplies, overuse of copier, and especially harped on using too many pens/pencils from supplies. He informed the division that they were now on a check-out alert, meaning that all copies made and all supplies taken must be reported on paper before taking the liberty of "misappropriating." He also informed the division that there were too many phone calls being made and to please resist the urge to call and e-mail instead. My son heard about this and said to the family member, "how's Snoop doggy dog today?" Had no idea that this was in reference to a rap group, but thought it funny that son came up with that nickname, which the family member continued to use among us.

I also know that memo was circulated in the company, at least in this particular division, requesting people stay off the internet. My family member found this fairly amusing since . Bill Gates always encouraged the surf while "Snoop" discouraged it, yet spent a great time on it himself. That's about all I know--If I can give you a good picture of what Boulder is like right now, there are hundreds of rubber- neckers driving past the Ramsey house, which has caused a lot of anger among neigbors. Will try to keep you abreast of Boulder's "climate." and would certainly encourage other Boulder residents to add to conversation. See you. Back to bed.
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thank you, Miss Marple, for including my earlier thread re. Patsy and John's behavior at dance class.

Regarding John R. addressing the division of his company that he chose to reprimand for overusing copier, internet, even pencils/pens, it is highly out of character for an executive to personally address his staff rather than either send a memo or have a subordinate issue the news--I guess that is why we found it so funny (this was long before killing of JonBenet). As a supervisor myself, I loathe having to address my staff on such matters, not only because it is so time consuming, but it is highly embarrassing for the recipients--I prefer memos, or I address the staff in private if I suspect any misuse--again, go figure.

There is so little news from Boulder--I have asked on previous threads that my fellow residents add their 2 cents, but I haven't been following the post very carefully, so perhaps they have...

Do know from both the news and a close friend of Patsy's that she (Patsy) was not a happy camper-- despite the apparent consensus of dismay over beauty paegents for the very young, my friend feels Patsy had many reasons for enlisting JonBenet in these: It gave Patsy something to throw herself in due to bad marriage and it some- how satisfied the mother (Patsy's) who apparently was at least an avid believer in winning at any cost--

anyway, there are many angry Boulder residents who feel this whole mess will never be resolved and a lot of grumbling about J. Ramsey getting away with murder--I don't know--a lot of theories, few answers, a very, very angry Police chief and major who are under a great deal of heat--
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