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Evidence - Partially Wrapped "FAO Swartz"

December 26, 1996 Search Warrant Page 10
Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (55KKY)
Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (56KKY)
Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (57KKY)


[Boulder PD Search Warrant December 26, 1996]1996-12-26: Inventory of Property removed from 755 15th Street

December 26, 1996 Search Warrant Page 10:

White string from sled (33KKY)
Earring on Street (34KKY)
Canvas bag from crawl space (37KKY)
Black sheet metal from wine cellar (39KKY)
Broken purple ornament from basement (40KKY)
Red pocket knife with broken ornament (41KKY)
Vacuumed fibers (42KKY)
Felt tip pen (43KKY)
Hair fibers from victims pillow (44KKY)
Hair fibers from victims bed (45KKY)
Fibers from victims bed (46KKY)
Fibers from victims pillow (47KKY)
Vacuumed fibers from victims bed (48KKY)
Vacuumed fibers from victims pillow and bedspread (50KKY)
Sharpie marker (51KKY)
Hair fibers from Mr.& Mrs. Ramsey's bed (52KKY)
Hair found in brush in Mr. Ramsey's bathroom (53KKY)
Rolodex in Mr. Ramseys desk (54KKY)

Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (55KKY)
Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (56KKY)
Partially wrapped FOA Swartz (57KKY)

Marker (58KKY)
Marker (59KKY)
Handwritten note (61KKY)
My Science Project from Burke's room (65KKY)
Yellow notepad with writing (66KKY)


[John Ramsey, June 1998 Interviews]1998-06-23: John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Screen Capture on left is from "CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer" 10/04/2002)

John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane
Present also were Bryan Morgan, PI David Williams
June 23, 24, 25, 1998 - Boulder, Colorado


June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Presents in Wine Cellar)

24 LOU SMIT: Okay. we'll get off that subject
25 for just a little while, may be I'll come back to

1 it later. I'm going to just touch a little bit on
2 presents, okay?
3 JOHN RAMSEY: Um hmm.
4 LOU SMIT: And I wanted to do that and
5 kind
6 of lead into various photographs, okay? I've got
7 photographs of the wine cellar. And these were
8 taken during the course of the crime scene
9 investigation. And it shows various presents in
10 the wine cellar. And I just had a couple questions
11 on that.
12 It's 263, 264, 265, 266, 267 -- I'm sorry. We'll
13 eliminate those 266, 267 and 268. we'll just
14 concentrate on the first three. And we'll just
15 show that to the camera and that will make up
16 somewhat of an image. Do you have any comments
17 about that, or does anything that looks out of
18 place? Because you're the one that knows basically
19 your house.

June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Presents in Wine Cellar)

20 JOHN RAMSEY: Well Patsy had gotten a bunch
21 of gifts at FAO Swartz up in New York in early
22 December, some of which were for them were for
23 Burke's birthday, which was in January. She didn't
24 know they were in the closet exactly,


13 LOU SMIT: You notice how the packages seem
14 to be partially opened. Can you explain this?
15 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I can't.
16 LOU SMIT: So Patsy had gone there and
17 just kind looked to see what was (INAUDBILE)?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: It's possible. (INAUDIBLE) I mean,
19 you can figure out what's in them. The cigar box
20 was sitting on a paint can, or something like
21 that. And I believe it shouldn't have.

[Patsy Ramsey, June 1998 Interviews]1998-06-23: Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth (Screen Capture on left is from "CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer" 10/04/2002)

Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth - Present also were Patrick Burke and Ellis Armistead June 23, 24, 25, 1998 - Boulder, Colorado


June 1998 Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth (Presents in Wine Cellar)

18 TOM HANEY: Okay. And on Christmas Eve, when
19 you went in there --
21 TOM HANEY: -- this wasn't there?
23 TOM HANEY: How about the blanket?
25 TRIP DEMUTH: If we could go back, kind of

1 skipped over a couple of pictures here, 145.
2 PATSY RAMSEY: There is the bicycle.
3 TRIP DEMUTH: I have a question for you, 148
4 here.
5 PATSY RAMSEY: These were gifts I think I was
6 holding back for Burke's birthday.
7 TRIP DEMUTH: They are in the red and white
8 and yellow FAO Schwartz wrapping?
10 TRIP DEMUTH: Now in 148 there is also this
11 white pocket, do you know what that is?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Huh-uh, it looks like cotton.
13 I don't know.
14 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. It is hard to sort of
15 figure out where all of these pictures are taken, but
16 there is another package over here.
17 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh.
18 TRIP DEMUTH: Does that look out of place or
19 in the proper place?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I had -- you know, I
21 stacked up some packages along there (inaudible).
22 Kicked (inaudible) or something. I kind of have it
23 backed up here.
24 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. So the packages in 146,
25 it looks like it is out of place to you?

1 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh. Yeah. See, that
2 looks -- the door would be here.
3 TRIP DEMUTH: It is hard.
4 PATSY RAMSEY: So that would be back in here
5 somewhere. I was right in front of the door.
6 TRIP DEMUTH: No. Here are the screens. You
7 see the screens over here, the small screens, so it is
8 more back in this.
9 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. I would tuck them
10 there.
11 TRIP DEMUTH: I guess the point is, there
12 wasn't one that was off by itself. They should have
13 all been together.
14 The location in picture 148 is the correct
15 place for all of the packages to have been?
17 TOM HANEY: Before we go on, could we just
18 talk briefly about the packages, these were presents
19 for whom, the ones that were left in there?

June 1998 Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth (Presents in Wine Cellar)

20 PATSY RAMSEY: I believe for, you know, I
21 held some back for Burke's birthday which is in
22 January.
24 TOM HANEY: So that could have been that.
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. I don't remember what

1 was in them.
2 TOM HANEY: Would any of these packages be
3 opened?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: Probably. Well, see, these
5 came up, I was at FAO Schwartz in New York when
6 JonBenet and I were up there for a trip, and I had them
7 sent back to Boulder and they wrapped them, free gift
8 wrapping.
9 So like right here it looks like I kind of
10 peeled a little back to see what was in it because I
11 couldn't remember what was in them.
12 TRIP DEMUTH: If the wrapping has been undone
13 partially, that was --
14 PATSY RAMSEY: I probably would have done
15 that to peek to see what was in there.
17 TOM HANEY: Where did you do the bulk of your
18 Christmas shopping, the items you put in there?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, all of this stuff right
20 here was from FAO Schwartz in New York. JonBenet got a
21 bicycle that year. I got a university bicycle, and she
22 got a twin doll which I mail ordered, and --
23 TOM HANEY: Did she get to ride her bike?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: She got to ride her bike.
25 TOM HANEY: Christmas day?

1 PATSY RAMSEY: Out in the back driveway.
2 TOM HANEY: You don't remember the weather
3 that day, was --
4 PATSY RAMSEY: Sunny, nice.
5 TOM HANEY: So did she get much time on it?
6 Was it training wheel equipped or was she able to ride
7 a two wheeler by herself?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't think it had training
9 wheels. I think it did.
10 TOM HANEY: Did she get much time on it?
11 Could you give us a glue.
12 PATSY RAMSEY: No idea; riding out in the
13 back.
14 TOM HANEY: But she was able to handle it,
15 she didn't crash or anything?


[Death of Innocence]2000-03-18: “Death of Innocence” written by John and Patsy Ramsey

DOI Page 4

"Soon JonBenet slipped under the tree and removed a brightly wrapped gift from its hiding place near the back. She had found exactly the right present for me at FOA Schwartz during a trip to New York City with her mom in November. Patsy later told me that when JonBenet had seen the shiny red gumball machine that dispensed jelly beans, she insisted I had to have it because I love jelly beans. She marched across the room and proudly presented the gift to me, with a big hug and kiss."


[jameson's Webbsleuths]2001-07-27: Webbsleuths Forum (http://www.webbsleuths.org)
"What is this thing?"

"What is this thing?"
Posted by LovelyPigeon on Jul-27-01 at 11:24 PM (EST)

[Lou Smit's crime scene photo #149]

What is the yellow and white object in the lower left corner?

6 . "LovelyPigeon"
Posted by why_nut on Jul-28-01 at 07:51 AM (EST)

That is FAO Schwartz wrapping paper or a box. The yellow background sets off the white rocking horse logo. The angled portion is the front leg of the horse, and the white portion to the leg's left is the curved base of the rocking horse. You can see the logo in the Christmas morning picture of JonBenet and Burke, or in this link:

[From Why_Nut's link to FAO Swartz Gift Wrapping Paper in 1996]
Cumulative evidence would tend to put Patsy in that room on Christmas day. In DOI (page 5), John describes Patsy as doing some last-minute gift wrapping of presents, including "a few things for the Charlevoix neighbor kids" that were to be taken to Charlevoix, and in the December 26th search warrant, "Partially wrapped FAO Schwartz" gifts (55KKY, 56KKY, 57KKY) were taken into evidence. With your observation, we can now, at least, place the partially-wrapped gifts in the room where JonBenet's body was found.

10 . "Maikai"
Posted by why_nut on Jul-28-01 at 08:53 AM (EST)

"Assuming it was the partially wrapped gift---it doesn't make sense that Patsy would leave it in the storage room---or would bring it into the storage room. Why?"
On the issue of not being able to make sense of the paper image, look at the link I provided again. Look at the medium blue rocking horse at the far edge of the package. Mentally turn it 180 degrees. You will see how the front leg of the horse and the tip of the rocking base match exactly the image as seen in the crime scene photo.

I find it completely understandable for Patsy to have hidden FAO Schwartz gifts in the windowless room. Consider the fact that she would have known her children were very clever. Every child, and I am certain that includes you and myself, would take advantage of the opportunity to find out what gifts were stored, if only for the chance to shake them before Christmas morning to see whether they were heavy and therefore probably worth getting. I am fairly certain that, with free run of the house, every closet and cubbyhole was examined by Burke and JonBenet in the weeks before Christmas. Where, in 755 15th Street, could you keep a six-year-old and nine-year-old from finding their Christmas gifts? The answer would be in the one room that was latched along the top of the door, making it therefore impossible to open unless the child dragged a chair over, which would require a chair to be in the basement in the first place. (This is an interesting question. Were there any chairs in the basement? If so, why would an intruder use a suitcase to exit the window?)

Then consider the fact that the presents for the Charlevoix children had to be hidden in the same room, because JonBenet was of a young enough age to not recognize the boundaries between gifts intended for her, and gifts intended only for other children. Put a six-year-old girl in a room with wrapped presents and no stern instruction to stay away from them, and I am sure they would not remain wrapped for long.

23 . "DOI, page2:"
Posted by Shera on Jul-28-01 at 01:03 PM (EST)

"Patsy and I savored the night before Christmas, helping Santa Claus put everything in place". "We had made several trips to the basement, where Patsy kept the wrapped gifts stashed away".

DOI, page 5: "Patsy got busy preparing for our early morning departure the next day to Charlevoix, Michigan. She had some last minute gift wrapping to finish for John Andrew, and Melinda, the older children from my first marriage. There were a few things for the Charlevoix neighbor kids as well as a few special gifts for Stewart, Melinda's fiance, who would join us for this first ever family Christmas get together at our summer cottage in Charlevoix.

DOI, page 5: "In addition to those tasks, Patsy was packing summer clothes and bathing suits in suitcases laid out on the bed in John Andrew's bedroom".

DOI, page 6: "Patsy, Burke, JonBenet, and I, planned to meet Mike Archuleta, our pilot, at Jeffco in the morning for a 7:00 departure".

DOI, page 7: "I always loved hanging around airports, and Christmas Day was no different. I loaded some of the gifts that were going to Michigan and made sure the plane was ready to go".

Why_Nut great job coming through with the FAO Schwartz wrapping paper. (and may the "Schwartz be with you!)

The night before Christmas, gifts were brought upstairs and set up under the tree, gifts were still being wrapped Christmas Day, presents were being hauled for John Andrew, Melinda, Stewart, and some neighborhood kids. Their flight left at 7:00 am. Hardly the time to go to the basement to gather gifts, so John, in an obvious attempt to minimize the confusion and rush of getting a family out the door on the morning of a trip, brought some of these gifts to the plane Christmas Day, they still had to bring their luggage to the plane in the morning.

[ACandyRose Internet Subculture Forum]2001-07-28: ACandyRose Internet Subculture Forum
"Evidence: Partially wrapped FAO Schwartz"

From: ACandyRose 7/28/2001 10:34 am
To: ALL (5 of 14) 966.5 in reply to 966.4

[JonBenet, Christmas morning 1996 next to gifts wrapped in FAO Swartz wrapping paper]

From: ACandyRose 8/2/2001 12:57 am
To: EBAYGAL (12 of 14) 966.12 in reply to 966.9

From this list:

It says "partially wrapped"

I am just thinking out loud here...............

I suppose it could happen otherwise but most places that have "logo" gift wrap paper do the gift wrapping at the place where the gift is purchased and you bring it home that way or it is shipped to your home already wrapped.

We would have to know if FOA Schwartz sells their "logo" gift wrapping paper separate.

Now this was on Christmas night after the immediate family in that house had opened what belonged to them on gift exchange so any gifts laying around the next day we could assume didn't belong to the family as gifts but were meant to give to somebody else.

Yet it is described as "partially wrapped" indicating that a gift was being wrapped and was not finished. And now we know that at least "one" of those FOA Schwartz items was in the murder room from the crime scene photo.

By the look of the room from the photos I can't imagine Patsy going to that room to wrap presents, store them maybe but not wrap them.

And sorry but I just can't see any "sick puppy" shopping at FOA Schwartz !

We would have to know if the person (BPD) who logged the crime scene descriptions wrote "partially wrapped" as meaning the gift was partially opened or was the gift in fact in the process of being wrapped thus in the appearance of being "partially wrapped."

From: BAILEY38 7/31/2001 4:00 am
To: ACandyRose (6 of 14) 966.6 in reply to 966.5

Well, I'll be damned...it sure is. Ole why_nut is all over it.

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