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[Ransom Note Page 3 'Fat Cat'] .

Fat Cat
"You are not the only fat cat around
so don't think that killing will be difficult."


1996-12-25: The Ramsey Ransom Note


Page 3

"You are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult."



[John Ramsey, June 1998 Interviews]1998-06-23: John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Screen Capture on left is from "CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer" 10/04/2002)

John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane
Present also were Bryan Morgan, PI David Williams
June 23, 24, 25, 1998 - Boulder, Colorado


June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Fat Cat Phrase in the Ransom Note)

1 that we were.
2 MIKE KANE: There are these phrases in
3 here that seem to have some kind of Hollywood
4 connection? What did you think about that?
5 JOHN RAMSEY: It didn't dawn on me at
6 the time, because we (INAUDIBLE) so much. But that
7 came out later. There was a couple of phrases that
8 came out later: "you must grow a brain"; and we
9 can talk about the of the fat cat; and other fat
10 cats here, or something like that.
11 MIKE KANE: You're not the only fat cat
12 around.
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. Those are the phrases
14 that we, you know, later we thought we had heard
15 from people around us who have tried to
16 reconstruct who, where.
17 MIKE KANE: When you say we thought?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Patsy and I.
19 MIKE KANE: Okay. And how was it that you
20 heard?

21 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, grow a brain, fat
22 cats. We'd heard those before.
23 MIKE KANE: Were you ever able to --
24 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, we had some names
25 we came up with. We passed on (INAUDIBLE) our

1 friends in Atlanta, "Atlanta fat cats" later in
2 that week.
3 MIKE KANE: When was that specifically?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: That was when she was back;
5 when we were back for the funeral.
6 MIKE KANE: (INAUDIBLE) friends saying that
7 about?
8 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, when we went back, Ron
9 Westmoreland had like a little reception after the
10 funeral, and some of my friends were there, and he
11 has a beautiful home in Atlanta. He makes a lot of
12 money. It's not a stretch for him to have it. It's
13 very nice.
14 My friends were around me, consoling me and trying
15 to give me advice. And to be a part of that group
16 it's the Atlanta fat cats.



4 MIKE KANE: Last July, I think it was, that
5 you (INAUDIBLE) and I think at that point you said
6 that you had been thinking about it about, once
7 again, the possibility of a woman, and you had
8 thought Priscilla White. (INAUDIBLE), the fat cat
9 thing.

10 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. We went back to Douglas's
11 analysis that it's somebody you know; it's
12 somebody that's been in the house; it's somebody
13 that's hanging with you who's jealous. And if I
14 put that box around it, and what was subsequently
15 extremely bizarre behavior on both their parts.
16 MIKE KANE: What kind of behavior?

June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Fat Cat Phrase in the Ransom Note)

17 JOHN RAMSEY: A lot of it I didn't see,
18 but just heard about it. But when John Fernie
19 wouldn't let Fleet on the airplane because he
20 thought he was too out of control. My brother
21 called, they were supposed to stay at the
22 Westmoreland's and they nearly got cross-wise, and
23 they're two of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
24 They wouldn't stay there.
25 They went and stayed at my brother's and my

1 brother called me and said that he had a gun in
2 the house. I was, apparently lost. And he said,
3 Fleet White just left here and he's on his way
4 over. I think he's extremely dangerous. I got him
5 out of the house. Apparently he had those -- and
6 my brother is as calm and as level headed as any
7 person I know who is right to the core. Whatever
8 happened there.
9 MIKE KANE: What about Priscilla? I think
10 you said (INAUDIBLE)?
11 JOHN RAMSEY: Always when there was tending
12 to the children, he was the mom. I mean, he took
13 care of the kids. He was a stay home dad. He
14 wanted to have more kids and Priscilla didn't want
15 to have anything to do with it. He just seemed
16 very attentive to the kids.
17 (INAUDIBLE) if I narrowed that box down any
18 further to, I would pick Priscilla.
19 MIKE KANE: You think she was less (INAUDIBLE)?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Only because it would be
21 very hard for me to believe that Fleet would do
22 such a thing.
23 MIKE KANE: You're saying that it wouldn't
24 be hard that Priscilla would though?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: Less hard. And there's a lot

1 of data that flowed in afterwards to us from
2 friends that said, you know, Priscilla was very
3 jealous of Patsy. And they made a comment that
4 they'd rather eat glass than live in a house like
5 Rod Westmoreland's. It was hatred for wealth. It
6 was like strange stuff that was coming out, coming
7 back.
8 MIKE KANE: Is Fleet wealthy?
9 JOHN RAMSEY: Fleet? I don't have a clue.
10 MIKE KANE: He was always described (INAUDIBLE).
11 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. (INAUDIBILE). He bought a
12 house; he was apparently to get a mortgage. He
13 kept commenting about his mortgage rate. He didn't
14 have a job and he was pretty open about that .
15 I just assumed that he must had some money stashed
16 away.
17 MIKE KANE: Did Priscilla work?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: No. Well she use to say things
19 were tight and they had to -- cause she was going
20 to go on this trip to New York and Patsy wanted
21 her to go with Kathy and she wouldn't go because
22 they couldn't afford it. So it's hard to tell.


[Perfect Murder, Perfect Town]1999-02-18: “Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet and the City of Boulder”
Written by Lawrence Schiller, February 18, 1999

PMPT Page 225

"The ransom note would become public only in September 1997.
Karen Howard, an employee of Access Graphics, said that she ws struck by the words "your are not the only fat car around.' Howard remember that Patsy's father, Don Paugh, used the word CATS all the time; for example, 'Those cats down in markenting'."

[www.justicewatch.com]1999-06-09: Justice Watch Forum thread, "FatCat in N'awlins"

"FatCat in N'awlins"
Posted by Harmony on Jun-09-99 at 01:07 PM (EST)

Forgive me Chris for adding this picture here, but I found it to be such an odd coincidence. I was in Lake Charles the other day and I was feeling VERY LUCKY, so I bought this lottery ticket. I don't normally play the lottery, but this ticket caught my eye, as you might imagine. Isn't this weird? Note the 18,000 sum. Also notice that I DID win $18.00! LOL

[Harmony's Fat Cat Lottery Ticket]


[Jonbenet: The Police Files]2002-12-03: “Jonbenet: The Police Files”
by National Enquirer, Don Gentile and David Wright (Editors), December 3, 2002

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of John Ramsey by Lou Smit and Michael Kane in Colorado

NE Book Page 316-317:

Michael Kane: "There are these phrases in (the ransom note) here that seem to have some kind of Hollywood connection? What do you think about that?"

John Ramsey: "...There was a couple of phrases that came out later, 'You must grow a brain'....and, "other fat cats here,' or something like that.

Michael Kane: "You're not the only fat cat around."

John Ramsey: "...Well, 'Grow a brain, fat cats' We'd heard them before."

(Notations in italics by Don Gentile and David Wright from 'The files of the National Enquirer: "John recalled a reception given after JonBenet's funeral in Atlanta by his wealthy stockbroker and friend, Rod Westmoreland.")

John Ramsey: "My friends were around me, consoling me and trying to give me advice. And to be a part of that group - it's the Atlanta fat cats."

[jameson's Webbsleuths]2002-12-23: Webbsleuths Forum (http://www.webbsleuths.com)
"If it's not where you're looking"

unregistered user
Dec-23-02, 03:40 PM (EST)

15. "Tinkers Dam"
In response to message #14

"Let us consider the "fat cat" portion. Boulder is full of 'fat cats' and I once speculated about some hypothetical list from the Chamber of Commerce "Fat Cats Living in Boulder Who Have Beautiful Young Daughters" and just how many names would be on that list and in far, far higher positions than John Ramsey."

There was such a list, or at least a form of it, and John Ramsey appeared nowhere thereon because (surprise) he did not make enough money to be on it. If someone was jealous of wealth, or wanted to bring down The Man, or fight makers of gadgets, why not pick on the people of this list, all of whom were better targets towards those goals?



2003-02-18: Local professor profiles JonBenet’s ransom note

Last Updated: 11:19 pm, Tuesday, February 18th, 2003
Local professor profiles JonBenet’s ransom note
By Rachelle Treiber

He was not allowed to take photographs while touring the palatial Boulder, Colo. home where a 6-year-old girl had been killed just months earlier.

Scott Community College professor Thomas McAninch, a nationally known crime/criminal mind expert, dissects the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note left at the John and Patsy Ramsey home in Boulder, Colo., in 1996. (Greg Boll/Quad-City Times)

But Thomas McAninch did what any good criminologist would: he carefully committed as many details as possible to his memory.


He said it was apparent from the beginning of the letter that a crime was being staged to look like something it was not.

“The author says they represent a ‘small foreign faction,’ but no self-respecting terrorist would consider themselves less that representative of the masses,” he said. “It also says ‘we respect your business,’ but would a foreign faction respect your business? You just don’t find this kind of thing in kidnapping notes,” he said.

Furthermore, he believes a sentence that states, “speaking to anyone about your situation will result in your daughter being beheaded,” also is an example of the author trying to speak as they believe a terrorist would.

And terms written in the letter like “fat cat” are idioms that would not be taught to a foreign person learning the language. For those reasons, he said it was easy to eliminate a person from the Middle East as the author of the ransom note.

“A profile does not predict the individual, it predicts the type of person, and more specifically, it eliminates people,” he explained.


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