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|Caylee Marie Anthony Missing Sunday, June 15, 2008 - Orlando, Florida|
Age: 2, Caylee Anthony was reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony, on July 15, 2008. At that time Caylee's mother, Casey, said on the July 15, 2008 911 call that her daughter had been missing for "31 days." Date of disappearance is unknown at this point as the mother Casey is not cooperating with authorities
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|CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE TRANSCRIPTS|
Zenaida Gonzales on Nancy Grace 10/01/2008
Mother Officially Named Suspect in Missing Toddler Case
Aired October 1, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Police desperately searching for a beautiful little 3-year-old Florida girl, Caylee, after her grandparents report her missing, little Caylee now not seen for 15 long weeks, last seen with her mother. So why didn`t Mommy call police?
Headlines tonight. Police formally name mom, Casey Anthony, the prime suspect in 3-year-old Caylee`s disappearance. But why now? What do they know that has tipped the scales?
And tonight, primetime exclusive, the Zenaida Gonzalez who mom, Casey, named to police as Caylee`s kidnapper, is with us live. Now she`s naming someone, mom, Casey Anthony, in a lawsuit, this as she struggles to carry on a normal life, even receiving death threats after being branded the kidnapper of little Caylee.
And tonight, more stunning police interrogation tapes released. As we wait for formal charges tonight, where is 3-year-old Caylee?
GRACE: Everyone, the tot mom, mom, Casey Anthony, has formally been named a suspect in her daughter`s disappearance. It`s been a long time coming, as we wait for formal charges to come down. I`m not talking about a bad check card -- a bad check charge or a fraud charge. This is in relation to the disappearance of 3-year-old Caylee Anthony. We are taking your calls live.
We`ve got a very special guest joining us tonight, the Zenaida Gonzalez that Casey Anthony named as the kidnapper of her little girl, the Zenaida Gonzalez that was at Sawgrass apartments. In the most twisted turn of events, there actually is a Zenaida Gonzalez, and she is with us tonight. Let me at the beginning say she is not a kidnapper. She has never met Casey or Caylee Anthony, has no knowledge of this case whatsoever. But after this, her life has been devastated.
Ms. Gonzalez, thank you for being with us.
ZENAIDA GONZALEZ, ALLEGED BABY-SITTER: You`re welcome.
GRACE: When did you first realize that you were a part of a potential murder investigation?
GONZALEZ: When I received a phone call from the detective.
GRACE: And what did they say?
GONZALEZ: That if I was the Zenaida Gonzalez that had -- that had the two children and was driving a certain car. And I was, like, yes. And then he was -- he said, OK, well, then you are -- we need to speak to you because you`re a suspect in a disappearance of Caylee Anthony.
GRACE: Oh, good Lord in heaven! What was your immediate reaction? Had you ever even heard of Caylee Anthony?
GONZALEZ: No. I was in shock.
GRACE: Where were you when you received this phone call from a detective?
GONZALEZ: I was actually -- I was out in the store with my daughters.
GRACE: What, they called you on your cell?
GONZALEZ: Yes, ma`am.
GRACE: Amazing how they got the information. Now, had you been at Sawgrass Apartments earlier?
GONZALEZ: I had just went that one time to go look at an apartment.
GRACE: And did you look at that vacant apartment?
GONZALEZ: Yes, ma`am.
GRACE: And such a twist. To your attorney, John Morgan, joining us from Orlando. He is handling this defamation lawsuit against mom, Casey Anthony. Have you considered, John Morgan, how Casey Anthony got the information that a Zenaida Gonzalez was at Sawgrass Apartments, at that particular apartment, looking at that particular apartment? How did she get her hands on that?
JOHN MORGAN, ATTORNEY FOR ZENAIDA GONZALEZ: Well, when she made the visit to the Sawgrass Apartments, she filled out a visitor`s card. She put her name down and her two children`s names down. So we suspect that she may have received the information that way.
GRACE: I still am perplexed as to how Casey Anthony got that information. I know that she knew people that lived in the area. Isn`t that correct, Leonard Padilla?
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: That`s correct. She knew Annie Dowling (ph), who lived in apartment 218, and she knew Dante (ph), who also lived in 218. And on that particular day, she wasn`t driving her car. She was driving Tony`s Jeep with a New York plate on it. And she had been out to visit Chris (ph) earlier in the day. So it`s not like she was driving her car and it would be recognized if she was in and around the apartments. She was actually driving a Jeep that belonged to Tony.
GRACE: Back to Zenaida Gonzalez, joining us tonight, and her attorney, a veteran lawyer there in Orlando, Florida, John Morgan. Ms. Gonzalez, when did you -- after you received this phone call, you`re out shopping with two of your -- you have six children, right?
GONZALEZ: Yes, ma`am
GRACE: Like you need another child.
GONZALEZ: No, I don`t.
GRACE: OK. Six -- I think an even half dozen is a good number. I`ve got two, and I think that that may be enough for me. Ms. Gonzalez, you get this phone call from cops that tell you you`re a suspect in a kidnapping. What did you do then?
GONZALEZ: I was kind of in shock. I didn`t know what to do.
GRACE: These are shots of the children of Zenaida Gonzalez. Well, what did you do, just go home? Did you call a lawyer?
GONZALEZ: I just went home. I just -- they said they wanted to meet with me, and I just went home and I said, OK, then just come by. I`ll be there in 20, 30 minutes.
GRACE: You know, it`s amazing. They never got that kind of cooperation from Casey Anthony. So the cops show up. Were your children at home when the cops came to Mommy`s door?
GONZALEZ: Yes, ma`am.
GRACE: That`s not a good childhood memory.
GRACE: What did they say when they got there?
GONZALEZ: They just -- - they asked me questions, if I knew -- they asked me first if I had went to the Sawgrass Apartments on a certain date. And I said, Yes, I did. And they asked, OK, and what is the car that you was driving? So I showed them the car outside. And I said, That was the car I was driving. And he said, OK, then, you know, we want to show you some pictures and see if you recognize them. And they showed me pictures of Casey and Caylee. And I didn`t know who they were. So I told them I didn`t know. And then that`s when they informed me -- well, they informed me that she had given my name -- she had said that she had given me her daughter for me to baby-sit.
GRACE: Had you ever baby-sat for Casey Anthony?
GONZALEZ: No, ma`am.
GRACE: Had you ever baby-sat for anyone that worked at Universal?
GONZALEZ: No, ma`am. I`m not a baby-sitter.
GRACE: What do you do for a living?
GONZALEZ: I clean.
GRACE: And somehow, you`ve gotten sucked into this. Back to your attorney, John Morgan. Describe to me the lawsuit that you filed on behalf of Ms. Gonzalez against mom, Casey Anthony.
MORGAN: Well, when I met Zenaida, she was a basket case. She was fired from her job. She has had trouble finding jobs. Just the name Zenaida Gonzalez is a red flag. And she said, you know, What can I do? And I said, Listen, you`ve been charged with kidnapping or murder. And you can do two things. You can do nothing or do something. And I said, This girl has been pushing the police, and pushing her parents, and now pushing you. And what you can do is push back. And that`s -- and that`s why we filed the defamation lawsuit.
GRACE: You know, there aren`t many employers that want someone accused of kidnapping and possibly a murder.
MORGAN: Exactly. Exactly.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can`t tell me anybody that can find Caylee? Nobody.
CASEY ANTHONY: No, because every number that I`ve tried, every number that I`ve called is disconnected. Nothing. I can`t get ahold of anybody.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But that -- that girl was the last person to have her?
CASEY ANTHONY: She was the last person to have her. That was the last time I saw Caylee.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know where she was from? With a name like Soraida (ph) or whatever...
CASEY ANTHONY: Zenaida.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Zenaida.
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s mixed. She`s Puerto Rican and her father`s black. She`s from New York. From what I`ve been told, that`s where she was born.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
CASEY ANTHONY: She moved to Miami. She went to U of F.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: To psychologist Caryn Stark. I`m always amazed when I listen to mom, Casey Anthony. The lies get more and more fantastic, more intricate, more elaborate, more detailed. What does that mean?
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: It just means that she has a psychopathic personality, Nancy. Isn`t it intriguing? I mean, the woman is cunning and crafty. She`s a wonderful liar, narcissistic. She really fits. She`s classically a person with that kind of a pathology.
GRACE: Ms. Gonzalez, have you ever gotten an apology from Casey Anthony?
GONZALEZ: No, ma`am.
GRACE: Have you ever heard from her or her lawyers?
GRACE: Do you expect to be called at trial? You`re on the witness list.
GONZALEZ: I expect to, and I will show up because I haven`t done anything.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: And you last saw her a month ago?
CASEY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF MISSING TOT CAYLEE: 31 days. It`s been 31 days.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: Who has her? Do you have a name?
CASEY ANTHONY: Her name is Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: Who is that? Babysitter?
CASEY ANTHONY: She has been my nanny for about a year and a half. Almost two years.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: And why are you calling now? Why didn`t you call 31 days ago?
CASEY ANTHONY: I have been looking for her, and have gone through other resources to try to find her, which was stupid.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: OK. What is the 3-year-old`s name?
CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S MOTHER: Caylee, C-A-Y-L-E-E Anthony.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: Caylee Anthony?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: How long has she been missing for?
CINDY ANTHONY: I have not seen her since the 7th of June.
UNIDENTIFIED OPERATOR: What is her date of birth?
CINDY ANTHONY: 8/9/2000 -- god, she is 3 -- 2005. Caylee`s missing. Caylee`s missing. Casey says Zanny took her a month ago. She`s been missing for a month.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Casey is a suspect.
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: Correct. She is the person that we continue to go to and hope that she will step forward, if only that she will make up and say, let me provide the information to bring this to an end.
We`re looking at all the tips that we`ve received, close to almost 5,000 tips that we`ve received.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Any credible evidence that she has been sighted, anything along those lines?
UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: In one word, no. The information sometimes seems like it`s a smoke screen.
GRACE: Out to the lines, Katie in Maryland. Hi, Katie.
KATIE, MARYLAND RESIDENT: Hi, Nancy. How are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear, what`s your question?
KATIE: OK. My question is, isn`t it possible that she could have taken on the identity of this Zenaida Gonzalez, you know, like the dual personality type thing, in this crazy mind that she has?
GRACE: You know, Caryn, that`s an excellent question. It`s almost like we heard earlier from another tape, audio tape, she does take on the identity of each boyfriend she is with. One is religious, she`s religious. I think that was Jesse Grund. One smokes pot, she spokes pot.
You know, whomever she is with, she is like a chameleon and becomes like them. But I don`t see her rising to the level of a Sybil split personality-esque defense.
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: I don`t think so, Nancy, although it is a very, very good question. This is somebody who -- the reason she takes on everybody else`s personality, her boyfriend`s, is because she has no true personality of her own.
However, she used this woman as part of one of her weaving pathological lies that she does, and she came up with a name and then put it in very craftily to weave the story.
GRACE: You know, she has such an elaborate story about Zenaida Gonzalez. Tonight with us we have the Zenaida Gonzalez attached to Sawgrass Apartment and her attorney out of Orland. He knows his way around the courtroom, John Morgan is with us.
John Morgan, you have filed a lawsuit against mom Casey Anthony. FYI, she was siphoning gas from her parents` car. She could not fill up a tank of gas. Not that there is anything wrong with that. She hasn`t worked in God knows when.
Do you really think you`re going to get any type of a money settlement or money judgment against her that you can enforce?
JOHN MORGAN, ATTORNEY FOR ZENAIDA GONZALEZ, HANDLING DEFAMATION SUIT AGAINST TOT MOM: Well, the first and foremost -- this is really not about money. This is about.
GRACE: Well, that`s good, because there is not any.
MORGAN: Well, this is about Zenaida Gonzalez`s good name.
MORGAN: Now, however, remember this. There`s all sorts of rumor and rumblings -- there is rumors and rumblings that they may have received significant money from a network for licensing fees. There is rumors of a movie deal. There are rumors of, you know, all sorts of offers.
GRACE: Well, John, you`re very wise, John Morgan. "Lifetime" has denied any such suggestion that they have a movie in the works. But I can guarantee you, by the time this is all over, somebody will make a movie related to this.
You`re absolutely correct about that.
MORGAN: Well, I know -- I know for a fact, magazines have been approached by members to receive money.
GRACE: By members of what?
MORGAN: Of her team to receive moneys. And first and foremost, though, if there`s never a dime to be had, Zenaida Gonzalez gets to stand up on a platform that Casey Anthony put her on, and say, you know what, you put me up on this platform, and now I`m going to clear my good name.
GRACE: Is it true, Miss Gonzalez, that you have actually received death threats?
ZENAIDA GONZALEZ, MISSING TOT CAYLEE`S ALLEGED "BABYSITTER": Yes, ma`am.
GRACE: What happened?
GONZALEZ: Well, they call me. They call me about -- because my number went out public.
GRACE: And said what?
GONZALEZ: And they called and -- and they called me and told me what they`re going do to me or do to my kids what I did to the little girl. And that whenever they see me, they`re going to hurt me. It`s been crazy.
MORGAN: And also, Nancy, part of her profile that we`ve found interesting is like the Susan Smith. When Susan Smith killed her kids, the first thing she said is a black man took the kids.
Now they come in and say this Puerto Rican nanny came in. She kind of played this race card right off the bat to kind of inflame the public. And I think that all plays into her profile.
GRACE: Well, John Morgan, attorney out of Orlando, and Miss Zenaida Gonzalez, I wish you the best and I`m sorry for what you`ve been through, Miss Gonzalez.
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