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“Judith Phillips Did NOT Say She Received Death Threats On The Radio Show”

April 3, 1999

A Boulder News Forum thread titled,

“Judith Phillips Did NOT Say She Received Death Threats On The Radio Show”

On April 3, 1999 Judith Phillips was a guest on the Dave Lucas Radio show.

Judith Phillips Did NOT Say She Received Death Threats On The Radio Show

wiltonjr - 10:11am May 3, 1999 MST

The bot will accept "Wilt".

On WebbSluts there is a discussion on the Leeza show that aired today. Sue Bennett is having a hayday trashing Judith Phillips.

"Judith appeared drunk - I believe she has a big problem - with that and with her choice of friends. She was befriended by the "slime media" after the murder - they hammered the handwriting crap into her head. She is one sad person. Her lies were were something - she was NOT "close" friends with Patsy Ramsey - not according to Patsy or anyone near the situation. They were acquaintances, nothing more. Judith's descriptions of their times together show that as well. Judith and her husband ran into Patsy and the kids and went to eat- Judith spoke to BURKE while Patsy spoke to Judith's husband - THAT is how Judith was connected to Patsy - her husband and Patsy had worked together and THEY were friends. She said she got death threats and insinuated it was during the WROW radio show - LIES - I was on those shows as well. Never happened. We are going to get the tapes and transcripts up, I think. Murphy and Matthews are working on that now."

Anyone who watched the show KNOWS what Judith said. She said that ProRams from Cyberspace called in while she was on the show and gave her a hard time. The comment about receiving death threats came before the radio show crap was mentioned.

Just another example of how Sue "Jameson" Bennett spins things to her own accord.

ruthee - 11:01am May 3, 1999 MST (#6 of 6)

Lillies That Fester Smell Far Worse Than Weeds. My favorite from Will.

Well I guess my claim to fame is that I spent about 30 minutes in a private conversation with Judith Phillips.

Susan Bennett does not know what she's talking about regarding the relationship between Judith and Patsy. More likely is the fact that she does know and chooses to lie about another aspect of

the case.

This is a situtation where I have personal experience with the person she is talking about and I have never seen a bigger pile of bullchit in my life. It's so old it doesn't even stink anymore.

auntiebj - 01:37pm May 3, 1999 MST (#7 of 7)

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Unbelievable on how some people see things. Talk about "tunnel vision."

I was there in the WROW chatroom while listening to the radio show. Judith Phillips was absolutely great. She told a side of JonBenet that many of us never get to hear. She was very gracious. There was one caller who gave her a hard time and she handled quite well. It was great to have somebody on the radio show that talked about nice things with JonBenet. A rare occasion to say the least.

JonBenet Ramsey is the victim here and why people want to trash Judith Phillips for talking about JonBenet on the radio show is beyond me.

august - 04:17pm May 3, 1999 MST (#8 of 9)

I want to say I agree with Auntie BJ about the WROW show a few weeks ago with Judith Phillips. As I remember it, two callers, first a woman, then a man, both with very distinctive voices, gave Judith a hard time about selling pictures to a tabloid (I think it was the Globe). Included were the "Biting the Cross" picture and the "Bald Patsy" pictures. The callers claimed, I believe rightly, that Patsy had asked Judith not to sell those pictures to a Tab, and then she did, for a tidy sum of money. The voices were recognized by many in the chat room, including Mrs. Brady. There were no death threats, or any threats WHATSOEVER made on the WROW show

that night to Judith Phillips. I was there, Auntie was there, Jameson was there, Mrs. Brady was there, and I don't remember for sure who else, but at least 7 more or "us" were in the chatroom. It didn't happen!

I wasn't one of the ones who recognized the voices so I hesitate to name the callers, anyone else want to take the plunge?

auntiebj - 04:49pm May 3, 1999 MST (#11 of 11)

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This is the WROW chat log from the night Judith Phillips and Frank Coffman were on the radio show.

WROW Chat Log of April 2, 1999 (Link to chat log)

muni - 04:55pm May 3, 1999 MST (#12 of 12)

Murphy believes an intruder killed JonBenet.

Judith Phillips on Leeza.

Leeza - You were very close to Patsy Ramsey for many years.

JP: Yeah, we had many experiences together back in Atlanta as well as Boulder and I didn't mean to diminish the friendship. It was a very hurtful ending of the friendship, a long friendship. I went through a lot in a years time trying to let go so it wasn't an easy thing that ... It still makes me sad..

Leeza: I'm sure it does... You said when you left our show the last time, people let you know they paid attention to what you said and some of them let you know they didn't like it.

JP: There have been times... Uh, I know our phone has been tapped, and I have to be very careful about my garbage.

Leeza: Have you had death threats?

JP: Yes ... Yes I have had death threats. I've had uh ... I was on a radio show not long ago that was broadcast out of NYC and there were several cyberspace people who were several pro-Ramsey and they came on and didn't identify themselves. Rather than ask me questions, they said some HORRIBLE things. I have not kept up with the internet group at all and it was very shocking. I have to be very, very careful and that's why in the last year or so I've tried to diminish my involvement with the investigation, well now it's gone to the GJ, but I have had to do that for my own sanity and emotional happiness.

Leeza: It was reported that Patsy Ramsey may have had a boyfriend and the boyfriend may be the source of the DNA and Patsy is so concerned with public appearances that she'd never want that

known. Is that the craziest?

JP: {Laughs} Yes, that is crazy. Patsy is not like that. I can't speak for John and what he does but I know Patsy well enough to know that she is the type of person who is so immensely dedicated to her children and to that relationship, there would not be anything that she would do.. um, um .. The woman is BUSY!

Leeza: Anything except ... Do you believe she killed her daughter.

JP: Yeah, I think she did.

Leeza: So, doesn't that kind of negate everything you thought you knew about Patsy?

JP: Ah, there are some things of course that does. It took me a long time to come to that conclusion. It's not something I just decided by reading newspaper articles. I mean, it's been a LONG time in coming for me to admit that and that is my personal opinion.

Leeza: Showing Christmas video or Patsy, Burke, and JonBenet.

Leeza: Is that a wig because she was going through chemo?

JP: Yes, Uh-huh.

Leeza: I want the audience to look at JonBenet. She looks like an innocent young girl with dark blond hair. What happened to the dark hair?

JP: Well... It was a transformation during the summer when they were in Charlevoix. When they came back in the fall, she had this long bleached blond hair and was very different from the little

girl that I remembered.. When I asked her why JonBenet looked so different ... I said, are you bleaching her hair? And she goes, oh no no Judith, it's the hot summer sun in Charlevoix Michigan. Which, I mean.. I uh... {laughs}

Leeza: Is there one thing Judith that makes you believe that Patsy could have killed JonBenet?

JP: I think it's a couple of things. Most strongly for me was the fact of the ransom note and I'm convinced that she wrote the ransom note. Then if you're convinced about that, you try and put all

these puzzle pieces together then if she did this ... what else happened .. Just knowing the personalities of her and John, she had much more of a volatile personality that somehow through it all and seeing her on the TV and watching her in the one meeting we had after the murder, I pretty much ... uh ... I concluded that she, more than John, was the one ...

Leeza: Have you asked her?

JP: No ... {heehe}

Leeza: Has anyone asked her if she did it?

JP: I think uh, it would be fruitless to ask her. I think that in her mind she has completely cut the whole experience out ... That she probably feels at this point she is innocent ... She doesn't e

auntiebj - 05:02pm May 3, 1999 MST (#13 of 14)

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Death threats?????

I didn't hear any "death" threats that night. If there was anything out of line said that night you would be able to see the reation of the people in the chatroom and there was nothing like "death

threats." What is Judith talking about?

auntiebj - 05:05pm May 3, 1999 MST (#14 of 14)

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Judith Phillips may not realize that the whole show that night was not only recorded but we have the whole chat log from that night !!!

Unless there were telephone calls that came to Judith Phillips that we didn't hear on the air that night.

Yo Matthews, where are you? What is Judith Phillips talking about here?

wiltonjr - 05:15pm May 3, 1999 MST (#16 of 23)

The bot will accept "Wilt".

Read damnit, READ.

"P: Yes ... Yes I have had death threats. I've had uh ... I was on a radio show not long ago that was broadcast out of NYC and there were several cyberspace people who were several

pro-Ramsey and they came on and didn't identify themselves. Rather than ask me questions, they said some HORRIBLE things."

She did NOT say she received death threats on the radio show. Christ.

auntiebj - 05:19pm May 3, 1999 MST (#17 of 23)

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So is what she is saying is that she has had "death threats" somewhere along the way but not necessarily on the radio show that night?

wiltonjr - 05:20pm May 3, 1999 MST (#18 of 23)

The bot will accept "Wilt".

Yes AuntieBJ. She never said anyone called her on the radio show and threatened her life.

wiltonjr - 05:26pm May 3, 1999 MST (#20 of 23)

The bot will accept "Wilt".

Airplan, I'm aware that Judith said she has received death threats. But she did NOT say that she receieved them when she was on the radio show, Jameson said that Judith said that. She failed to

listen to what Judith said.

rockford - 05:35pm May 3, 1999 MST (#22 of 23)

Tick...tock...

I agree, Wilton. Judith was simply stating that her phone was tapped; she has to be careful with her garbage; she received death threats; people said nasty things to her on the radio show. She was listing them out. She did not say she received death threats on the radio.

IMO, and this is just an honest observation, jameson is too eager to jump the gun when an anti-Ram says something negative. She did it with Mrs. B. and she's doing it with Judith. It's almost like they just open their mouth to say something, and jameson immediately thinks

"lies! lies! all lies!" and doesn't really listen to what is being said.

auntiebj - 05:56pm May 3, 1999 MST (#23 of 23)

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I am listening to the tape right now. So far two of the callers were "Lake of the Internet" who is usually a bit gruff on the phone anyway but his call was not a problem that I could see. Another caller named "Brenda." I don't know who "Brenda" was but she did get a little direct in a nasty kind of way with Judith Phillips regarding the sales of the Patsy/JBR photos. Judith cut the call short and basically told "Brenda" she was finished with the call and "Brenda" said thank

you and hung up. Still listening......

matthews - 11:14pm May 3, 1999 MST (#29 of 29)

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As posted on WS...

53. "STOP TWISTING SHIT!!!!!"

Posted by matthews on 21:23:05 5/03/99

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Look.... I'm encoding the show right now... It'll be sent to Murph in the morning. But you folks are wasting your time. Stop the witch hunt for Christ's sake. Listen very carefully!!! Judith's sentence about death threats did not say she got threats from the show.... she said she got death threats. (period) and then went on to talk about the proram callers that called in. SIMPLE

JP: Yes ... Yes I have had death threats.(note the period) I've had uh ... I was on a radio show not long ago that was broadcast out of NYC and there were several cyberspace people who were several pro-Ramsey and they came on and didn't identify themselves. Rather than ask me questions, they said some HORRIBLE things. I have not kept up with the internet group at all and it was very shocking.”

54. "NO"

Posted by matthews on 21:25:20 5/03/99

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I do not believe the threats she mentioned are part of her mentioning the radio show... it was merely a mention of bad things that happened to her since this case... 1) death threats... and 2)the two certain callers... THAT's all!!!!!

Wilt, you are 100% right here. She never said anyone threatened her on the radio show. It is a display of loonacy that calls for a careful examination and a retraction.

august - 11:30pm May 3, 1999 MST (#30 of 33)

Hey Lance, take a deep breath! It really seemed that she was referring to the radio show! And a lot of us jumped in and said NO WAY did that happen!!!!!

I think the question deserves another radio interview! Tell her you will not allow any gruff voices to question her on the air! They can ask in chat if they want!

Hey, Lake and Mrs. Lake, no offence, your questions, while a bit harsh and confrontational, were on topic and relevant. No problem with me. I mean it!

auntiebj - 12:24am May 4, 1999 MST (#32 of 33)

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The following transcript is from the Dave Lucas Radio Show of April 2, 1999 where Judith Phillips is talking to a radio caller named Brenda. The RealAudio file for this section of this transcript is located below. Clicking on the RA link will automatically bring up your RealPlayer G2 to listen to the 2 minute section of this program.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2484/phillips.rm

BEGINNING OF TRANSCRIPT:

Dave Lucas: From the Internet we have Brenda on the line

calling from North Carolina, right Brenda?

Brenda: That's right

Dave Lucas: Okay and she's got some questions for you Judith

Judith Phillips: Okay

Brenda: Yes, um, Judith, I would like to know why you sold the

pictures you sold of JonBenet to the tabloids?

Judith Phillips: Um, I explained this on Larry King live before.

Brenda: I don't get CNN

Judith Phillips: Oh you don't

Brenda: No, so that's why I would like to know. It bothers me that

you did that.

Judith Phillips: Well that's your opinion

Brenda: I mean it's kind of like the Linda Tripp of Boulder.

Judith Phillips: Ah eh

Brenda. I mean that's the way I see it

Judith Phillips: Well your entitled to your opinion and I have the

photographs and I kept them secure in a safe for many many

months because I was afraid somebody would break into my

house and steal them.

Brenda: Ah eh.

Judith Phillips: And I had many many people at that particular

time approaching me, ah, about the photographs that I was......

Brenda: See I would have admired you if you had kept them till

it was all over and then done something with them but I think the

time that they were released was sort of a disgusting thing to do.

You know I was just wondering why you did it.

Judith Phillips: Well because, um, at that particular point I was

approached, I was, I had several friends from the publication that

approached me

Brenda: I mean was it for the money? Is that why you did it?

Judith Phillips: No it was not

Brenda: Okay

Judith Phillips: Because I had been um, constantly hounded by

people who wanted to see my photographs and my photographs

were quite different than what most people had seen before and I

was not equipped nor did I want to be able to a photography agency

to handle all those requests so the publication said they would do

that for me.

Brenda: Did you offer it to the Ramsey's first?

Judith Phillips: Did I offer?

Brenda: The pictures

Judith Phillips: No I did not.

Brenda: Did you offer it to their family?

Judith Phillips: No, I did not

Brenda: You just took it on your own to put them in a tabloid, is

that right?

Judith Phillips: Well I owned the pictures

Brenda: Yeah I know, I am aware of that

Judith Phillips: Ah eh

Brenda: I mean I was just asking the question. They weren't aware

that you were going to do this with the pictures?

Judith Phillips: I don't know, I can't answer that

Dave Lucas: Judith, are there any other photographs that did not

get released?

Brenda: (can't make out first part) I mean she could pick up a few

hundred dollars you know

Judith Phillips: Well ah, are you finished now?

Brenda: Yeah, I was listening to you honey

Judith Phillips: Okay, well I think I am finished talking to you too.

Brenda: Okay, thanks

Dave Lucas: Okay, well thanks for your call.

End of transcript..............

matthews - 01:24am May 4, 1999 MST (#36 of 36)

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My over all opinion of Judith was THAT she was very fair. I enjoyed chatting with her.

auntiebj - 01:58am May 4, 1999 MST (#37 of 37)

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I thought Judith was very polite and very much a lady on the program. Why some people are making a big deal as to whether she was close with Patsy Ramsey is beyond me. She photographed Patsy and JonBenet in what I would consider an extremely intimate moment in time. I find it hard to believe there was not some very close connection between the photographer and the subjects being photographed. Just look at Patsy in the pictures. You see peace,

comfort, trust. There is depth and feeling in those picture. Patsy didn't let some stranger take those pictures. Think about it.

And on the radio show Judith talked about JonBenet Ramsey (remember her, the victim) and told the audience wonderful stories that many of us had not heard before, stories about a little girl she

knew and who her daughter played with. I thought she was great on the radio show.

matthews - 12:01pm May 4, 1999 MST (#38 of 39)

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Yes, Auntie, That show was the best show we ever did ....IMO. It was geared to talk about personalities NOT case. I found it the most touching and truly informative show we did. By the by, Great job on the transcription and the RA. ;-)

auntiebj - 12:42pm May 4, 1999 MST (#40 of 40)

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Your are more than welcome Matthews. I figured with all the controversey on this subject that would take the time last night to transcribe that section of the show as well as do the encoding

of the RA to put that up as well. Sometimes when somebody reads the transcript they don't get the true feeling of just how something was said from another person and listening to the RA shows that the Internet caller was a bit rude to Judith Phillips.

I am so happy to see that Murphy had no problem with sharing of my documented information and allowed you to post my own personal work done on the transcript and RealAudio link onto the WebbSleuth's forum for others to read and listen to. I seen they even copied it from your original posting to another second thread. Of course I didn't see my name attached to it to give me full credit for the transciption and RA work. I am sure Murphy just "forgot" to remind

her members to add my name to the credits. :-)

auntiebj - 12:50pm May 4, 1999 MST (#41 of 41)

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Murphy, thanks for reminding your members about giving me full credit for my Judith Phillips transcripts and RA on your WebbSleuth's forum by adding my name to the thread that your members copied from what Matthews posted.

Sharing is caring :-)

auntiebj - 01:09pm May 4, 1999 MST (#43 of 43)

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Yep, Matthews appreciates my hard work. He thanked me here on this thread.

And I am sure that once Murphy also realizes that the imformation her members have posted on her forum and then copied to another thread is in reality my own hard work and that she will no doubt do the right thing and give me full credit for the information. I think a link to the "ACandyRose" site would be appropiate, what do you think?

auntiebj - 04:55pm May 4, 1999 MST (#59 of 59)

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Murphy did not steal my material and put it on Webbsleuth's Forum. I posted my website material here on the BNF last night and sent Lance Matthews a copy of it if he wished to post it on the WebbSleuth's forum which he did thank me for and then posted it. That was very nice of him. He did, however neglect to mention that it was my original material but then maybe he hadn't been told that he should do that.

Since then, another poster on WebbSleuth's took my personal transcipted and RealAudio link material and did a copy-n-pasted reposted it to another thread on the WebbSleuth's main JBR forum. And there is no credit's given to me for the original work I did on the transcripts.

So I am asking Murphy kindly if she will please indicate on that same thread called, "Leeza/Monday (PT 2)" that I am the one responsibile for the work done on the transcript and RealAudio file link they are using where I encoded that section of the Judith Phillips and Internet caller last night.

Murphy, please reference the URL below with my work off my website that is on your WebbSleuth's Forum.

Myths About Judith Phillips

The URL is: http://members.xoom.com/ACandyRose.1/phillips.htm

Thank you very much Murphy

auntiebj - 10:11am May 5, 1999 MST (#73 of 73)

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Well you rate over me Scoobi. I guess the WebbSleuth's Gossip column is not really a "REAL GOSSIP COLUMN." Where are the gossip column reporters? I mean here I am on BNF pointing out to the world that my own personal work that I stayed up late and transcibed that audio tape and did the realaudio encoding just so the WebbSleuth's members would have the correct information for their forum and Murphy won't even give me credit for my own work that is on my own web page that is now on not just one thread but two threads on the WebbSleuth's forum. Is that amazing or what?

auntiebj - 11:44am May 5, 1999 MST (#80 of 80)

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And here I included a whole bunch of good postings showing their point of view on my "Posters Other POV" link on my site and this is what they do to show appreciation.

And pray tell.... where are all the WebbSleuth lurkers here at the BNF getting all that gossip column information. Calling August, Afton, Texas1, Murphy, Bobo/Dvus, Xen/Space......Hello, is anybody out there?????

Did anybody notice on their last trip to WS if anybody updated and edited the thread called "Leeza/Monday (PT 2)" to mention that the transcript they have listd there is "MY ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT" and RA link they are using on that thread or are they trying to pretend it is Matthews work or their own work?

Boulder News Forum Thread (Archive Thread Postings)

“August, I don't work for Lance Matthews”

May 7, 1999

August, I don't work for Lance Matthews

auntiebj - 05:32pm May 7, 1999 MST

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August,

I do not work for Lance Matthews. He does not send me the real audios of the radio shows to transcribe or encode for him. Get your information correct. If he does that with Murphy that is his business and Murphy's business. I record the shows myself. There have been missing sections that I needed that I asked him to send to me but that's it. I encode my own realaudio from my own recordings myself for my own web page. On various shows I have also transcribe the tapes.

I personally transcribed the section in question of the April 4th radio show with Judith Phillips and Brenda because of all the controversy that was going on about the so called Internet death threats. After I finished the transcript, I talked with Lance that night on AOL Instant Messenger and told him I was going to e-mail a copy of what I transcribed if he wanted to put it on WS which he did. He thanked for it. I have no gripe with Lance regarding his thank you to me. He appreciated what I did.

The problem that I have August is that that the WebbSleuth's advertise that when they put somebody elses personal work on the forum that a link giving credit to who it belongs is included.

I seen no link on either of the two postings. I also stated in my post that you read that Matthews obviously hadn't been told of the WS rule. His posting has since been removed from the daily postings and is in the "read only" archives now, two days after that thread was made. There was no reason for me to contact him. He thanked me.

And for your information Jameson was at my "phillips" web page on April 5th at 5:55pm and the only way she could have got that web page URL was by reading the very posting that asked Murphy to include some recognition on my work that was on the WebbSleuth's forum. Nobody else had that URL address. But Jameson did nothing. She didn't even take the time on the same thread to thank me. She read the posting and then went and looked at my web page so I know she seen the message to Murphy. Jameson is the moderator at the very forum where these threads are. Did she edited them to include my link as requested? Last I looked this afternoon she didn't.

auntiebj - 06:07pm May 7, 1999 MST (#1 of 3)

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August, this was my posting from here on the BNF that was asking Murphy very politely to include a link on the thread where WebbSleuth's posted my transcript and realaudio link is below. This is the same thread that Jameson read for her to know what URL address the "Phillips.htm" web page was located at. I suppose you want me to include my IP log to show you how I know Jameson was at my web page and she didn't come in from the main index page either.

auntiebj - 04:55pm May 4, 1999 MST (#59 of 59)

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Since then, another poster on WebbSleuth's took my personal transcipted and RealAudio link material and did a copy-n-pasted reposted it to another thread on the WebbSleuth's main JBR

forum. And there is no credit's given to me for the original work I did on the transcripts.

Murphy, please reference the URL below with my work off my website that is on your WebbSleuth's Forum.

Myths About Judith Phillips

The URL is: http://members.xoom.com/ACandyRose.1/phillips.htm

Thank you very much Murphy

august - 06:48pm May 7, 1999 MST (#2 of 3)

May as well bring this over here where it belongs. OK, so Lance thanked you nicely and you aren't mad that he forgot to credit you when he pasted the "Brenda Talk" into the thread, like you said he could. You are just mad that when the thread got too long another poster did a copy/paste of this post when she started the new thread, and didn't give you credit. Starting a new thread on the same topic when the first gets too long is very common practice on WebbSleuths. Often the last posts from the previous thread are pasted into the new one for the WebTV'ers who can't read past a certain point. Our poster would have no way of knowing you had typed the material.

I see original, on topic essays of mine pasted over here, without permission all the time, for the sole purpose of flaming. One poster even lifted an essay and put it on her website (we have since come to terms on that one). WebbSleuths does not engage in that practice, except an occasional, credited short excerpt, brought in for case discussion - and, of course, the gossip column. Seeing posters clamoring for a mention in the column and on WS tells me that the occasional excerpt is not minded.

AuntieBJ, my point is, why didn't you just e-mail Lance and ask him to credit you, or better yet, post on the thread yourself, and claim the credit for typing. Posting a complaint in the middle of

garbage posts near the end of an old thread is just not an effective way to "get your credit!"

Back to.....something more important???? please?

auntiebj - 07:51pm May 7, 1999 MST (#4 of 4)

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August,

I think your missing the point here. Lance Matthews is not the problem. I clearly posted that he obviously was not informed that when somebody's original work is copied to WebbSleuths that a link is suppose to be provided according to your leader, Murphy. The thread where he posted is no longer there to edit. It is in a "read only" file. The new thread where it was copied is

still there and can be edited. It is not Matthews responsiblity to edit somebody elses posting. It would be up to the owner or moderator of the forum to have the person who copied it to edit their post.

I understand about the "Webbies" and the need to copy posts to another thread. All I asked Murphy to do was to edit the damn thread and include my link as the originator of the work done. Was that to hard to do?

And August, You know exactly what is going on and so do I. Murphy wants to bitch because I copy thread information but she has no problem with letting my work on her forum with no credits. On my web site I give everybody credit for anything I put there that they do whether it is positive or negative. Your moderator read the message you claim was "in the middle of garbage posts near the end of an old thread" so what is her excuse for avoiding responsibility to give credit were credit was due?

matthews - 08:30pm May 7, 1999 MST (#5 of 14)

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ooooooOoOoOOoOoOoooOOoOoOooOooo .....tick tock

Shit, Sorry guys. Didn't mean to cause such a stir. Auntie gave me the links cause I wanted to post them on websleuths. I cut and pasted it just the way it was sent. I didn't know I needed to put credit up for you Auntie, or you know I would've done so. I would be lying if I said the thought of crediting you there hadn't crossed my mind. I thought about it.... then assumed, since I thanked you, that everything was a-okay to just throw it up there. I also thought if I credited you that some people would allow there bias and prejudice to stand in the way of reading and hearing the wonderful job you did on the RA and transcriptions.

Damn, I edited two shows so far and loaded them myself.... what a lot of work. Auntie, I am always amazed at the time and effort you spend on these pages you do. I for one appreciate the job you do. I don't always agree with you POV on certain things, but I do love to visit your site.

No August, Auntie doesn't work for me. Matter of fact, I don't work for WROW. I have never received any pay for the work I've done on the shows. But, all that might be water under the bridge now, as Dave has gotten into a car accident and the Dave Lucas Show is officially cancelled. More later....

august - 08:43pm May 7, 1999 MST (#10 of 14)

That's terrible Lance, Please let us know more as soon as you can. Auntie BJ, I really think the difference is that in this case you merely typed from the audio, it is not your writing. Thank you for doing that, and letting Lance have it, but it is a far cry from copying large amounts of posters own essays and responses onto your site, credited or not. If I had seen your complaint earlier in the week, I would have mentioned it on the original thread myself, but I have been very busy these last few weeks, and just didn't keep up on every old thread. And I still think there was a much more effective way of dealing with the issue - like e-mail???

auntiebj - 09:17pm May 7, 1999 MST (#16 of 16)

http://members.aol.com/ACandyRose/index.html

Lance, I am very sorry about Dave. I hope it is not something real serious.

August, sorry you feel it is a downplay that I only listen to audio tapes and typing the words. I didn't realize it was such a chit job. You just told me something about yourself.

Regarding me using posters original words on my site. Would you rather me reword everything in my own words? Take things out of context? Correct the spelling? Add my point of view? aybe I should color code my site and add my tidbits here and there.

Calling them posters own essays? I am surprised that you even put the postings at a high esteem to refer to them as essays. After all, I am just typing up words that I am reading. Isn't that just the same as just typing words I am hearing an audio tape, a low life chit job, according to you. Tell me the difference?

I will remember this to remind you when the trial begins and the court reporter is just typing up those words for the court transcript. It is not like it would be her own work so what importance would it be?

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