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This web page is part of a series covering found materials regarding individuals, items or events that apparently became part of what is commonly known as the vortex of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case Christmas night 1996. The webmaster of this site claims no inside official Boulder police information as to who has been interviewed, investigated, the outcome or what information is actually considered official evidence. These pages outline found material which can include but not limited to materials found in books, articles, the Internet, transcripts, depositions, legal documents, Internet discussion forums, graphics or photos, media reports, TV/Radio shows about the JonBenet Ramsey murder case. Found materials are here for historical archive purposes. (www.acandyrose.com - acandyrose@aol.com)

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Evidence - Patsy's Paint Tray BPD Search Warrant 12/26/1996 - Broken paint brush (21KKY) BPD Search Warrant 12/26/1996 - Wooden shards near paint tray (22KKY) BPD Search Warrant 12/26/1996 - Paint Tray (25KKY)

CHAIN OF EVENTS 1997

1997-04-30: Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo

Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo
Also present, Pat Burke, Bryan Morgan, Pete Hoffstrom, Jon Foster
April 30, 1997 - Boulder, Colorado
http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1997BPD-Patsy-Interview-Complete.htm

TT: So, you took painting classes in the fall.
PR: Right.
TT: What kind of classes?
PR: Down at CU
TT: Water color or oil, or…
PR: I think you could do either one, acrylic or oils.
TT: OK. Which did you do?
PR: I started out with oil, but then I changed to acrylic because it got on my car when I (inaudible). It smelled real bad, so I switched.
TT: Do you normally keep the painting supplies in that (inaudible) area where the checkered board stuff is?
PR: Yeah, we had it there for a long time, and then around the holidays, I moved all that to the basement.
TT: OK.
PR: Ah, cause we put coat racks and things in there for parties.
TT: OK. What part of the basement do you recall moving the painting supplies to?
PR: I don’t remember. I think Linda took all that own there. I think it was kind of, I don’t remember. (Inaudible) was storing everything, I don’t remember where she put it.
TT: Is that a (inaudible), how much stuff are taking about?
PR: Well, I had a bunch of big canvasses; had a Santa by the lawn, and a big easel, a big tall easel; and then like a white caddy kind of thing, like a plastic thing that I had a bunch of paint in. It would have been a lot of stuff to flip over.
TT: So some place in the basement is where (inaudible) all that?
PR: Yeah.

People Magazine, October 6, 1997, 'Mom and Dad Under Suspicion'
(by Richard Jerome, Vickie Bane in Boulder, Sara Gay Dammann in Charlevoix, Fannie Weinstein and Gail Wescott in Atlanta, Jennifer Mendelsohn in Parkersburg, Margie Bonnett Sellinger in Washington and Sue Miller in New York City)

(Page 100): "The cops are apparently trying to wear down the Ramseys until one of them, likely the more volatile Patsy, breaks. One weapon may be leaks to the press. For instance, the stick attached to the rope that strangled JonBenet was broken off one of Patsy's paintbrushes."

CHAIN OF EVENTS 1998

1998-06-23: John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane
(Screen Capture from "CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer" 10/04/2002)

John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane
Present also were Bryan Morgan, PI David Williams
June 23, 24, 25, 1998 - Boulder, Colorado

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-John-Interview-Complete.htm

June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Patsy's Paint Tote)

0284
7 LOU SMIT: Okay. I'm going to hit one more
8 area, and then Mike I wondered if you had some
9 areas that you wanted to get into?
10 MIKE KANE: Um hmm.
11 LOU SMIT: So just one more area. Everybody
12 has heard about -- I can't say that. What have you
13 heard about a paint tray?
14 JOHN RAMSEY: Just what I read, or tried
15 not to read. But can't help but hear the media
16 that tell us a broken paintbrush that was used as
17 part of the -- you see, I found JonBenet. I never
18 saw a cord or that sort of thing. I thought I saw
19 a cord, but I didn't focus on it or realize there
20 was anything in the way of a twister, which
21 apparently it was.
22 It apparently was a paintbrush. And that's based
23 on what I heard in the media. That's my
24 impression. That's all I really heard.
25 LOU SMIT: Your impression then of that

0285
1 literature then, what did you picture that to be
2 in your mind? I mean, you hadn't seen it?
3 JOHN RAMSEY: I did remember -- I mean,
4 the cord on her arms was kind of an unusual cord.
5 It wasn't a piece of twine or heavy string or
6 anything like that. It was like a drawstring out
7 of a coat or something. It was woven kind of cord.
8 (INAUDIBLE) apparently around the neck, I guess
9 the same stuff. That's all I really noticed.
10 LOU SMIT: I'd like to show you a series
11 photographs. It starts at photograph 175, 178, 181
12 -- excuse me, 179, 180 and 181. and I'd just like
13 to show these photographs to you. Mr. Ramsey, I'll
14 just show them briefly for the camera. I know it's
15 hard to pick up completely but I'll show you
16 anyway, the front and back.
17 If you'll take a look at those and let me know,
18 first of all, what in fact is that? It's a tray
19 but --
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, it's a tray of artist's
21 brushes; it looks like, which I presume was Patsy
22 and JonBenet's. They liked to paint together.
23 Looks like some paints. Can't tell what that is on
24 that side.
25 LOU SMIT: And you're pointing to --

0286
1 JOHN RAMSEY: To these (INAUDIBLE)
2 LOU SMIT: To the right side as you're
3 looking at it?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: Right.

June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Patsy's Paint Tote)

0286
5 LOU SMIT: And that's photograph 178, by
6 the way.
7 JOHN RAMSEY: It looks like it's sitting
8 outside the door of the wine cellar. Were these
9 pictures (INAUDIBLE)?
10 LOU SMIT: I can't say, but I don't believe
11 that you can see it in the others.
12 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
13 LOU SMIT: But their perspective may
14 different.
15 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I don't remember seeing
16 those in those other pictures, or this for that
17 matter. But I'd have to look at them again to see
18 if that was from a different perspective.
19 LOU SMIT: (INAUDIBLE) those two on the
20 top here. I can show you where they have the
21 handwriting.
22 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. I can't even tell.
23 I'd say it looks like art supplies and then some
24 paint. That's painting Patsy had painted.
25 LOU SMIT: That's on photograph 178?

0287
1 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. Looks like stuff I
2 couldn't recognize as some paper towel in this
3 picture. I don't know what this is.
4 LOU SMIT: That's 182. That's just a
5 photograph of a -- What is that photograph of?
6 JOHN RAMSEY: It looks like the blanket
7 on the concrete floor. And that's quite possible.
8 It could have been the white blanket she was
9 wrapped in.
10 LOU SMIT: Where was that blanket on her
11 kept?
12 JOHN RAMSEY: I don't know. Patsy said
13 that it came off her bed.
14 LOU SMIT: Is it something that was on
15 JonBenet's bed?
16 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, according to Patsy,
17 yeah. That was the blanket that was on her bed.
18 No, I just can't tell what that is. I don't know.
19 LOU SMIT: That's on photograph 182?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Um hmm.
21 LOU SMIT: And you're pointing to a little
22 shiny object?
23 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, it looks like -- yeah.
24 These other pictures could have been pictures that
25 Patsy used for examples of things to paint of. She

0288
1 could answer that. Yeah.

1998-06-23: Patsy Ramsey Interview (Thomas Haney, Trip DeMuth)
(Screen Capture from "CBS 48 Hours - Searching for a Killer" 10/04/2002)

Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth - Present also were Patrick Burke and Ellis Armistead June 23, 24, 25, 1998 - Boulder, Colorado

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-Patsy-Interview-Complete.htm

June 1998 Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth (Patsy's Paint Tote)

0342
20 TRIP DEMUTH: So 68 is a photograph of the
21 sconces you were talking about over the spiral
22 staircase; correct?
23 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.
24 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. Sixty-nine.
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Down to the butler kitchen

0343
1 area, the coat rack that I had set up for the party. A
2 tray, yeah. I don't know. Here is the door in there.
3 TRIP DEMUTH: You said --
4 PATSY RAMSEY: I opened that to take --
5 TRIP DEMUTH: To take a picture?
6 PATSY RAMSEY: Was it locked, do you know?
7 TRIP DEMUTH: Yeah. I can't recall whether
8 it was.
9 PATSY RAMSEY: Okay. I don't know.
10 (inaudible).
11 TOM HANEY: Seventy-one.
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Okay.
13 TRIP DEMUTH: I want to ask a question before
14 we go off the butler area, as long as you are looking
15 at 69 there.
16 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.
17 TRIP DEMUTH: You used to have your painting
18 materials in the butler kitchen; right?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.
20 TRIP DEMUTH: Where were they?
21 PATSY RAMSEY: Right here. Right in this
22 area.
23 TRIP DEMUTH: Just in the central area or was
24 it off to the side?
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, this wasn't a real big

0344
1 space. So it had the easel kind of set up right there
2 and the sink was there to wash, and the (inaudible)
3 area.
4 TRIP DEMUTH: You had a paint tree also, a
5 tray, or I don't know what you call --
6 PATSY RAMSEY: It was like a little utility
7 carrier with paint in it and stuff.
8 TRIP DEMUTH: Do you remember when you moved
9 those items?
10 PATSY RAMSEY: Right. Linda did. I asked
11 her to take them to the bedroom.
12 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. And do you remember when
13 she did that?
14 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, she did it prior to the
15 party on the 23rd because we wanted to hang coats here.
16 I don't know exactly the day she did it, but --
17 TRIP DEMUTH: Do you know where she moved
18 them to?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Down here in the basement, I
20 think, you know, kind of like sort of in this area.
21 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay.
22 TOM HANEY: Well, there is a -- I think maybe
23 a quick little look at the tray with some brushes in it
24 in a minute. In that tray of brushes what would you
25 have had in there?

June 1998 Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Thomas Haney and Trip DeMuth (Patsy's Paint Tote)

0345
1 PATSY RAMSEY: Paint and brushes and
2 probably -- I don't know. I don't know exactly what
3 was in there. Supplies, you know, paint supplies.
4 TOM HANEY: What kind of painting were you
5 doing? What kind of paint would you have had in there?
6 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, oil or acrylic. I
7 signed up for a class where you could use both, and I
8 started out using oil and it got over my car, so I
9 switched to acrylic, but there was a mishmash in there.
10 TOM HANEY: Okay. Out of the brushes you
11 would have had in there, would you have had any that
12 were broken or damaged or would you --
13 PATSY RAMSEY: No, they were all pretty new.
14 TOM HANEY: Okay. So any broken or damaged
15 ones?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: Throw it away.
17 TOM HANEY: So --
18 TRIP DEMUTH: Take a minute, Patsy, and think
19 about the paint tree. Were there any broken paint
20 brushes that you recall?
21 PATSY RAMSEY: No, not that I recall. They
22 were all pretty new when -- they had a list of things
23 to buy for the class.
24 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay.
25 TOM HANEY: Did you follow their advice?

0346
1 Sometimes, you know, you get the list from school and
2 you think do you need all of this.
3 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, pretty close, yeah.
4 TOM HANEY: What is available. Do you recall
5 where you would have made the purchase before this?
6 PATSY RAMSEY: Art Hardware in Boulder.
7 TOM HANEY: Is that on Broadway?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: On Broadway.
9 TOM HANEY: Still on this.

(SNIP)

0399
4 TOM HANEY: Photograph, I think is 178, that
5 is that tray of paint brushes that we talked about
6 earlier.
7 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.
8 TOM HANEY: Is that where it is located?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, like I said, Linda took
10 all of the paint stuff out of the butler kitchen there
11 when she took it to the basement. And to tell you the
12 truth, I never really paid too much attention where she
13 put it.
14 TOM HANEY: Okay. I can't tell.
15 TRIP DEMUTH: Here is the wine cellar.
16 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, okay. It could have been.
17 I don't know.
18 TOM HANEY: Do you recognize what that is
19 behind it there?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. That is a painting I
21 did.
22 TOM HANEY: Okay. Pretty much the painting
23 supplies, the materials were together.
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Right, all together.

CHAIN OF EVENTS 1999

1999-02-18: "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet and the City of Boulder"
Written by Lawrence Schiller, February 18, 1999

PMPT Page 181sb

"Patsy started taking a painting class, and JonBenet drew a lot with crayons and MARKERS. People and flowers. They had a big easel, but most of the time JonBenet painted on a card table in the butler's kitchen. Patsy had her paints and brushes in a white paint tote. Sometimes she asked me to take her paints down to the basement. "I don't want to see it." On the day of the Ramseys' Christmas party, I took the paint tote downstairs .....by Linda Hoffmann-Pugh"

(SNIP)

PMPT Page 239sb

"By mid-February the FBI and the CBI forensics technicians had concluded part of their fingerprint typing and fiber analysis. CBI told the Boulder police that no prints had been found on the black duct tape that John Ramsey said he removed from his daughter's mouth and none were found on the broken artist's paintbrush used to make the "garrote" found around JonBenet's neck."

1999-02-00: A Ramsey story not found in Schiller's book

BoulderWeekly Gossip:
Andre Linoge works in our office
A Ramsey story not found in Schiller's book

I met Patsy Ramsey a couple of months before the murder of her daughter. It was in a beginning painting class offered through the Continuing Education program at CU. Though everybody there was dressed appropriately in scruffy clothes and smocks, Patsy arrived wearing an expensive sweater with ornate flowers embroidered across her breasts. She had a giant diamond ring on her left hand.

Most of the students had never painted before, so by the end of class most canvases looked like sloppy crap-except for Patsy's. She painted a still-life of flowers in a box on a porch and it was obvious from the somewhat sophisticated level of shading and color mixing that she'd had previous training. Just the same, she paraded the painting around the class, showing it to everyone and saying, "Look! I've never painted before! Do you think it's any good?" I distinctly remember this being very odd because we were all strangers and here she was obviously lying to gain our approval. Later, her previous experience as a painter was proven true in the media.

She only came to class a few times. I think the class was too weird for her (or weird in the wrong ways). It was taught by one of Colorado's most outrageous artists, Terry Maker. She gave some very fun, right-brain assignments that drove a few people away.

There was also one guy in the class who was going through a divorce and basically coming out of the closet through his art. One day he came into class with a landscape he'd painted during the previous session and had reworked in his spare time. He maintained the previous sunny scene but had painted over it the bottom half of a bright orange naked man. A muscular penis dangled down below the knees. Patsy was among those who cordially complimented the man's work, weakly saying something like "My. That's interesting." But she was obviously freaked out by it. I don't recall her coming back to class again.

-A local artist

CHAIN OF EVENTS 2000

2000-04-11: “JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation”
by Steve Thomas and Don Davis, April 11, 2000

ST Page 37

"In the far corner of the basement, just outside the small room where the body had lain, Detective Mike Everett discovered a half-dozen oil paintings on canvas and an artist's plastic tote box belonging to Patsy. In the tote was a broken brush splotched by paint. Splinters were on the floor beside the tote. It was a major find because the broken brush matched the fractured end of the multicolored stick used in the garrote. The detectives had found the source of part of the murder weapon and where it had been broken."

CHAIN OF EVENTS 2004

2004-01-14: The Bonita Papers-1999 (Paint Tray/Brush)
From a poster known as "Spade" on the www.forumsforjustice.org forum posted information regarding a person known as "Bonita." Spade wrote: "These are the unedited "notes" of Bonita Sauer, secretary/para-legal to Dan Hoffman. Bonita intended to write a book from the case documents provided to her boss. But Bonita's notes were sold to the tabs by her nephew. Larry Pozner is a partner in the same law firm. I hope he reads his secretary's notes about this case before he runs his mouth about the Ramsey's. (Again) This is a long file, so I suggest copying to your own computer and printing it out. I have checked the important case info and find it accurate, however there is some BS. Please post your questions." On another postings, Spade wrote, "Bonita is the 1st name of the legal secretary who wrote up the Boulder Police reports, mailed them to her nephew in Oregon who in turn double-dealt them to two tabs for $70,000. Bonita had access to all the BPD reports. Keep in mind that Bonita wrote-up her info in 1999"

"Inside the room, investigators found the white blanket that John said had been wrapped around JonBenet, and the piece of black duct tape which had covered her mouth. .They also found bundled inside the blanket a child's pink Burble nightgown. A red Swiss army knife was also found lying in the corner of the room away from the blanket. On the floor outside the door to the cellar was a paint tray and acrylic painting supplies. One of the detectives observed a wooden handle to a paint brush, the type used by artists, which appeared to be broken and a piece missing. The floor of the wine cellar was vacuumed to collect any trace evidence. The black duct tape, blanket, nightgown, knife, broken paint brush and paint tray, and vacuumed particles were all collected and logged into evidence."

"A white synthetic cord, matching that found on the wrist, had formed a tight ligature around JonBenet's neck. The cord had been tied with a double knot at the back of her neck. Dr.Meyer cut off the cord exposing a deep furrow created by the tight cord encircling the neck. The furrow was almost horizontal with no upward pattern. One end of the cord measured approximately 4 inches and was frayed. The other end of the length of cord was approximately 17 inches and was tied in multiple loops around a wooden stick. The stick was approximately 4-1/2 inches long and had the word "Korea” printed in gold letters."

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