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Surrounding the JonBenet Ramsey Murder case

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JonBenet Ramsey Murder - December 26, 1996
Crime Scene - Suspicious Evidence
755 15th Street, Boulder, Colorado

About the Crime Scene Photographs

[Baseball Bat found outside]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo #410
Baseball Bat found outside

[Baseball Bat found outside]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo #235
Baseball Bat found outside

1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 84:

"Just outside the room, there were wooden shards near an artist's paint tray that also held part of a broken paintbrush; several paintings, one of which Patsy had done in Michigan, of flowers in a box on her porch; rope; string from a sled; and down the hall on a counter, a red pocket knife.

1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 181:

"Burke had this red Scout knife and always whittled. He'd never use a BAG or paper to catch the shavings. He'd whittle all over the place. I asked Patsy to have a talk with him. She answered, "Well I don't know what to do other than take the knife away from him." After Thanksgiving I took that knife away from him and hid it in the cupboard just outside JonBenet's room. That's how that problem was solved....Linda Hoffmann-Pugh"

1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 437:

"Then there was the issue of where Burke's red pocket knife had been kept prior to the murder; it was found a few yards from JonBenet's body."

2000 March 18
John and Patsy Ramsey book
"Death of Innocence"

DOI (HB) Page 321:

"I wondered if, as they walked through the basement, any of the jurors brought up the issue of Burke's red Swiss army knife, which according to the media had been found on the countertop near a sink, just a short distance from where JonBenet's body was found. The implication was that the killer could have used the knife to cut the nylon cord used to tied (sic) JonBenet's wrists together. The cord was also used to make the garrote placed around her neck, which ultimately resulted in her death by strangulation. Linda Hoffmann-Pugh, our cleaning lady, had said on a TV talk show that she thought the issue of the knife was relevant to the murder.

Patsy and I never quite understood why she'd made those statements except that we knew she was mistaken about a number of other issues when she spoke on national television. The truth was that we had no idea where someone might find Burke's knife at any given time; he has a tendency to leave things lying around when he loses interest in them. The knife could have been anywhere in the house. And we had no idea if the knife had any relationship to anything that happened in the crime"

[John Douglas book 'Mindhunter']
John Douglas book

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of Patsy Ramsey by Tom Haney and Trip DeMuth in Colorado

NE Book Page 224:

Trip DeMuth: "Now, in the house in addition to several bibles, you had a ton of books. Let's talk a couple of minutes and talk about some of those, some which you may know something about, maybe you don't.
How about the book 'Mindhunter?'"

Patsy Ramsey: "No."

Trip DeMuth:
"Do you recall that? Do you recall seeing it around the house?"

Patsy Ramsey:
"Huh uh."

Trip DeMuth: "Where you not reading?"

Patsy Ramsey: "No"

Trip DeMuth: "Is it a book by John Douglas?"

Patsy Ramsey: "I don't know."

Trip DeMuth: "Do you know who he is?"

Patsy Ramsey: "John Douglas, I know."

(Notations in italics by Don Gentile and David Wright from 'The files of the National Enquirer: "Early in the case, former FBI profiler John Douglas, the inspiration for the profiler in the Hannibal Lector books and movies, was asked to question the Ramseys by their attorneys. He believes they are innocent.
His book, 'Mindhunter' has a section about the way killers stage a crime scene to cast suspicion elsewhere."

2000 May 9 - Live Chat with former Detective Steve Thomas on About.com

crimeADM: "Was a copy of Mindhunter found in the Ramsey home?"

SteveThomas: "Ramseys deny it, apparently.
Sgt Tom Wickman, who came back to take charge of the original crime scene, says it was there."

[Red-and-white stuffed bear in a Santa suit]
Crime Scene Photo
Stuffed Bear in Santa Suit

2000 March 18 - John and Patsy Ramsey book, "Death of Innocence"

DOI (HB) Page 273-274:

"During the interview, photographs of JonBenet's bedroom were shown to me, and I saw a
red-and-white stuffed bear in a Santa suit lying on an adjacent twin bed. I said I didn't remember seeing that bear before. My comments started a nationwide search for the bear."

2000 May 9 - Live Chat with former Detective Steve Thomas on About.com

crimeADM: "Did the "teddy bear saga" have any bearing on the case? (3 people just asked this at once, for some reason)

SteveThomas: "Teddy Bear: Patsy suggested a teddy bear depicted in a crime scene photo didn't belong. Remember, on Dec 28th we didn't know exactly what sister Pam hauled out of there. So we were trying to determine if it DID belong, and from where it might have come"

"Pam Paugh's hoax about 'a message in the pouch' Posted by MaskedMan on 13:48:54 2/02/99 (From a posting on the Justice Watch Forum on the Internet)

"This is one for the books, folks:

As you may recall, Pam Paugh claimed on Inside Edition last Friday that there was "a message" in the pouch of the teddy bear that was seen in JonBenet's room. It turns out that Pam got this "fact" from a reporter who suggested it to her on that Friday morning. The reporter asked Pam about a possible note in the pouch. Pam replied that she didn't know anything about a note in the pouch! That was the first she had heard of it.

From the reporter, Pam gathered her "information" about the supposed "message." She assumed that the reporter was giving her valid new information (even though the reporter seems to have pulled the question out of thin air). Pam Paugh then eagerly told Inside Edition about the alleged note. Inside Edition didn't check out Pam's story or find out where she got it. Inside Edition aired the story without trying to confirm it.

It's all a HOAX, folks. Nothing to it, except poor journalism and Pam's suggestible nature."

*****Note: Frank Coffman, Journalist used the Internet screen name of MaskedMan

[Rope from John Andrew Ramsey's Bedroom]
Fox News Channel
Crime Scene Photo
Rope from John Andrew Ramsey's Bedroom

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of Patsy Ramsey by Tom Haney and Trip DeMuth in Colorado

NE Book Page 245:

Patsy was shown a photo of rope found in John Andrew's bedroom

Patsy Ramsey: "I don't recognize it, specifically."

Trip DeMuth: "Okay. And that, that particular piece of rope, do you ever remember seeing anything like it around? And if you look at photo 115, you notice the... ends are unusually secured... can you think of any reason to have that kind of rope around?"

Patsy Ramsey: "I've just never seen ends like that, done like that. John had some, you know, boat ropes and things up at the lake, but it seems like when they cut those they kind of melt the ends of them or something to keep them from fraying or something. I've never seen one done like that."

Trip DeMuth: "The kidn of ropes you're talking about that John used up there - "

Patsy Ramsey: "For the sailboat or - "

Trip DeMuth: "Are they colored the same or similar?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Well, some of them have like little blue flecks in them or red, or there's some white ones, you know."

Trip DeMuth: "Okay. Do you know what, what those are composed of? Is it a nylon-like that melts?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Yeah, it must, something that melts, yeah. But it seems to me like they somehow torch the ends and kind of keep them from fraying. I can't remember seeing any one looking like that."

Trip DeMuth: "You don't remember that being used anywhere in the house or yard or - "

Patsy Ramsey: "No"

Trip DeMuth: "Would you think that unusual to be found in the house?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Yeah, I mean, Burke had some ropes that he would play with through something out on the playground, you know, in that, in that picture yesterday the rope around the, the fort, you know, or something."

Trip DeMuth: "Right"

Patsy Ramsey: "Always trying to make a boat or something like that."

Trip DeMuth: "This was found inside the house"

Patsy Ramsey: "Inside the house?"

Trip DeMuth: "In John Andrew's room?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Oh. Maybe it was a, some rope he used for capmping or something, I don't know."

Trip DeMuth: "Did he have rope in his room that he would use for camping?"

Patsy Ramsey: "...I don't know. I just don't remember seeing this specifically, and I don't remember ever seeing a rope like that."

Trip DeMuth: "Do you know John Andrew had a rope in that room?"

Patsy Ramsey: "No"

07-11-2001 British Documentary
'Who Killed The Pageant Queen'
By Michael Tracy and David Mills
Screen capture by Jayelles

Lou Smit: "What's interesting about this room - we did see that some of the drawers in the bathroom right off the bedroom were partially open - looked like they were out of place. Also in this room there was a rope and we don't know where that rope came from. No one can explain why that rope is in this room."

[Is this the same rope used as prop for JonBenet Photo?]
Tabloid media
Crime Scene Photo
JonBenet Photo showing a rope used as prop

[Dust Ruffle on John Andrew's Bed]
07-11-2001 British Documentary
'Who killed the Pageant Queen'
Crime Scene Photo
Dust Ruffle Jar's Bed
Screen capture by Jayelles

[Paint Tote outside Windowless Room]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo #178
Paint Tote in Basement

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 37:

"In the far corner of the basement, just outside the small room where the body had lain, Detective Mike Everett discovered a half-dozen oil paintings on canvas and an artist's plastic tote box belonging to Patsy.
In the tote was a broken brush splotched by paint. Splinters were on the floor beside the tote. It was a major find because the broken brush matched the fractured end of the multicolored stick used in the garrote. The detectives had found the source of part of the murder weapon and where it had been broken."

[Atlanta Meeting August 29, 2000]
CBS 48Hours 10-04-2002
Atlanta Meeting August 29, 2000
Screen capture by ACandyRose

10-04-2002 48 Hours Investigates - "Searching for a Killer"

Bruce Levin: (Atlanta meeting taped August 29, 2000 9:34am) "You were shown photographed wearing a red out..."

Patsy Ramsey: (Atlanta meeting taped August 29, 2000 9:34am)
"It's kind of a black and red and gray fleece"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Bruce Levin of the Boulder's district attorneys office led the questioning"

Bruce Levin: (Atlanta meeting taped August 29, 2000 9:34am)
"Mrs. Ramsey, I have scientific evidence from forensic scientists that say there are fibers in the paint tray that match your red jacket"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "The paint tray is significant because a brush from it along with some rope was used to strangle and sexually abuse JonBenet. "

Bruce Levin : (Atlanta meeting taped August 29, 2000 9:34am)
"We believe the fibers from her jacket were found in the paint tray, found tied into the ligature found on JonBenet's neck, was found on the blanket she was wrapped in, was found on the duct tape that was found on the mouth. I have no evidence from any scientist that suggest that those fibers are from any source other than your red jacket."

Lin Wood: (Atlanta meeting taped August 29, 2000 9:34am) "Well, come on, what other sources did they test."

[Patsy explaining fiber transfer]
CBS 48Hours 10-04-2002
Patsy Ramsey Explains Fiber Transfer
Screen capture by ACandyRose

10-04-2002 48 Hours Investigates - "Searching for a Killer"

Erin Moriarty: (Talking to Patsy) "What do you think about these fibers?"

Patsy Ramsey:
"After John discovered the body and she was brought to the living room. I laid eyes on her; I knelt down and hugged her. But I was, had my whole body on her body. My sweater fibers or whatever I had on that morning are going to transfer to her clothing."

[Lou Smit climing in Basement Window]
CBS 48Hours 10-04-2002
Detective Lou Smit
Climbing in Basement Window
Screen capture by ACandyRose

July 11, 2001 British Documentary, 'Who Killed The Pageant Queen?' produced by David Mills and Michael Tracey

LOU SMIT : "You know its been said that only a midget could get down into that grate, well I'm no midget and I'll show you how easily it can be done. It really wasn't that difficult coming in that window. And often with a burglar or an intruder if they find a safe way in they also figure it'll be a safe way out. And if you remember, there was a suitcase that was right underneath this window. And if he figures that he has to go out this window, he may think that it would be much easier if there was something to stand on and on top of this suitcase was a very small pea sized piece of glass - which may have been picked up by a person’s shoe and a faint impression of possibly a footprint on the suitcase. And that suggests very strongly to me that perhaps someone did stand on that suitcase at one point, perhaps to go out the window or perhaps just to test to see if he could go out that window. Now I can't say for sure if an intruder went through that window, but also we cannot just disregard it and say that he did not come through that window."

[Suitcase under Basement Window]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo
Suitcase under Basement Window

04-14-2000 Larry King Live with former Detective Steve Thomas

Larry King: "What about the suitcase under the bedroom window?"

Steve Thomas: "Well, I think that's easily explained -- under the basement window."

Larry King: "Basement window."

Steve Thomas:
"One, a witness in the house that day moved the suitcase, but I don't think these crime scene photos that some are relying upon are necessarily indicative of what a true pristine crime scene was that day."

Larry King: "Meaning?"

Steve Thomas:
"Meaning, the suitcase was moved at one point during the day before that photograph was taken."

[Train Room Window - All three views]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo
Basement Window (Exterior)
All three Views

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 37:

"Downstairs in the basement, another technician examined the broken window.
three windows, each eighteen-by-thirty-inch rectangles, were in a row. The top left pane in the center window was broken, and the screen was off. The tech noticed pieces of glass outside the window and a scuff mark on the wall. The dust, film, and debris on the window-sill were undisturbed."

[Train Room Window - Middle View]
From Lou Smit's Presentation
Crime Scene Photo
Basement Window (Exterior)
Middle View

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 195:

"Lou Smit was certain that another photo showed a footprint at the bottom of the window well.
We would later clear away the leaves and debris and take new, detailed photographs. The 'footprint' was a blemish in the concrete."

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of Patsy Ramsey by Tom Haney and Trip DeMuth in Colorado

NE Book Page 229:

(Notations in italics by Don Gentile and David Wright from 'The files of the National Enquirer:
"Patsy was shown a picture of a baseball bat that was found outside the north side of the house near the butler kitchen's door. A fiber from a carpet on the floor of the basement outside the wine cellar had been found on the bat."

Patsy Ramsey: "That looks like a baseball bat. What is that? It looks like..."

Trip DeMuth:
"...That photograph was taken on the north side ...up by the butler kitchen door."

Patsy Ramsey: "Oh really. That is unusual. That is unusual."

Trip DeMuth: "Why is that?"

Patsy Ramsey:
"It is not unusual for the kids to leave their stuff laying around, but they wouldn't have had it over there. It would have been - remember all of the toys laying under the swing set? It would be that area. So that is - that is very unusual."

Trip DeMuth: "They never took their toys on that side of the house?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Nobody hardly went over there."

Trip DeMuth; "Okay. The boys -"

Patsy Ramsey: "Run around, I know."

Trip DeMuth: "Would they end up playing over there, or do you know, is there any place they wouldn't go outside?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Well, you are right. There is probably no place they wouldn't go, but it would be highly unusual, is what I'm saying, for a baseball bat to be there, because there is not that much space over there. I mean, if they hit a ball and bat, it was usually over where the patio is..that area."

Trip DeMuth:
"How about the bat itself, does that look -"

Patsy Ramsey:
"Well, I can't say for sure. Burke would probably know."

Trip DeMuth:
"Do you know how many bats he might have had? Would he have had more than one?"

Patsy Ramsey:
"I don't think so. I mean, I think that looks metal. Metal bats are pretty - I mean, they are not cheap. So I can't imagine - I don't think he had more than one, if he had one."

Trip DeMuth:
"But he did have one?"

Patsy Ramsey:
"It seems like had had one, but I can't say for sure it was that one. Like I said, he would know. I'm sure he would know. He might know if they ever played over there, but that bat seems weird to me. Yeah, very strange."

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of Patsy Ramsey by Tom Haney and Trip DeMuth in Colorado

NE Book Page 243:

Tom Haney: "Okay. The next group of photos and these are not numbered - but they show a flashlight."

Patsy Ramsey: "Uh huh."

Tom Haney: "A black metal...type"

Patsy Ramsey: "Uh huh."

Tom Haney: "Flashlight. Do you recognize that?"

Patsy Ramsey: "It looks similar to one that John Andrew gave John for Christmas, birthday or something."

Tom Haney: "That's similar to the one that John Andrew gave John?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Yeah."

Tom Haney: "And I think last time when you were here on last April... you said, 'where that was stored?'"

Patsy Ramsey: "Uh huh."

Tom Haney: "And I want to clarify that a little bit. Do you remember where it was stored?"

Tom Haney: "The drawer that is open?"

Patsy Ramsey: "That's open there, yeah."

Tom Haney: "And that's the wet bar that's by the spiral staircase, right?

Patsy Ramsey: "Right"

Tom Haney: "Okay. Okay. and looking at photo 380, you don't see a flashlight in (the drawer), right?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Correct...where was this flashlight found?"

Tom Haney: "Well, do you remember when you came in on, in April, they showed you a picture of the flashlight? Do you recall that? You may not."

Patsy Ramsey: "No, not exactly"

Tom Haney: "Okay. This was on the kitchen counter... why would that be out?"

Patsy Ramsey: "I don't know."

Tom Haney: "Did you guys use this flashlight much?"

Patsy Ramsey: "I didn't, no"

Tom Haney: "Who did?"

Patsy Ramsey: "John used it"

Tom Haney: "What did he use it for?"

Patsy Ramsey: "I don't know, looking in the garage and the car or something like that."

Tom Haney: "Okay. Had you ever seen it on the kitchen counter before?"

Patsy Ramsey: "Not that I recall."

Tom Haney: "Would it have struck you as unusual, or would that not be outside the realm of possibilties, given the habit of the family?"

Patsy Ramsey: "It seems like it would have been unusual to have made it all the way into the kitchen, because usually if somebody was using the flashlight, they were - John was looking at something in the garage or under the car or somethig like that."

Tom Haney: "Okay"

Patsy Ramsey: "But he might, you know, I'm sure you must have asked him if he...?"

Tom Haney: "And maybe I missed it, do you know when you last saw it in the drawer?"

Patsy Ramsey: "No, I'm not for sure."

Tom Haney: "Okay, how about, do you recall of using that during say a power outage or to check on the kids at night, anything along those lines?

Patsy Ramsey: "No, I don't remember that"

Excerpts from National Enquirer book, "JonBenet, The Police Files" by Don Gentile and David Wright

1998 June 25, 26, 27 - Taped Interrogation interview of Patsy Ramsey by Tom Haney and Trip DeMuth in Colorado

NE Book Page 338:

John was then shown two photos showing a
torn-up letter that was found in the trash can in JonBenet's room.

Lou Smit: "Have you ever seen a letter like that?"

John Ramsey: "It doesn't look familiar... it says,
"Somebody loves you all, Merry Christmas."

Lou Smit: "I can tell you that
these items were found in the trash can in your daughter's room and it was torn up."

John Ramsey: "Do you know what the word before "loves' is? 'Somebody loves you all.'

Lou Smit: "I am sure that has been looked at very closely. It appears to be a Santa Claus Letter."

John Ramsey: "(trying to read the torn-up letter)...
'Friend, enjoy your holidays, Christmas.' 'Well it doesn't look like anything I have seen before... and I don't know what it would be doing, you know, torn up in..."

July 21, 1998 Linda Wilcox (former Ramsey housekeeper) interview on Peter Boyles Show

Peter Boyles: We'll talk about the police interview and we'll talk about the books by the bed. One of the stories we broke was about John Douglas' book Mindhunter being seen in the crime scene photos. You know a little bit about books by the Ramseys beds...

Linda Wilcox: Well, they each had a pile of books in the corner by the bed. Even though they had nightstands. Originally the nightstands weren't there until they redid the upstairs. And even afterwards, they tended to just throw the books there. So, I kind of knew who read what. So,
Patsy's side had things like, you know poems for women and not really what I would consider true trash-like Harlequin romances, but more like Mary Higgins Clark, woman novels. Some of them, I had even read. John's side of the bed was usually some kind of suspense-thriller. He tended to buy books by, what I call, by the numbers, I mean whatever's number 1 on the bestseller lists. Occasionally it would be something like the 7 habits of successful people, or financial things or even a (garbled) occasionally. But, generally it was some kind of suspense novel.

1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 196:

"I can tell you one thing. Whoever killed that child knew JonBenet's dog wasn't going to be in the house that evening. Sometimes Jacques would stay at the Barnhills' for a few hours and then he'd come back. He was always going back and forth. The killer knew the dog had already been taken across the street to stay with the Barnhills since the family was leaving the next morning for their winter vacation"..... (quote by Nedra Paugh)

1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 405:

"The second addendum to the search warrant noted that when Sgt. Whitson first arrived at the Ramsey house,
he noticed what seemed to be a pry mark on the door jamb. The damage are 'appeared to hae been less weathered than the surrounding surfaces on the door and door jamb,' the document said."

"The Ramseys' attorneys were quick to point out in a press statement that the documents contained nothing to incriminate their clients. Hal Haddon said it was "significant" that people close to the investigation had not leaked information that was exculpatory to the Ramsey family, such as the pry mark. He also provided the media with a photograph of the door jamb, which the police had seen on December 26, and said, "The material released today demonstrates substantial evidence of an intruder."

"The next day, the Rocky Mountain News published the 5 x 8 inch photograph alongside a story that quoted Haddon as saying that important evidence of an intruder had been withheld from the public."

"The Ramseys' former housekeeper, Linda Hoffmann-Pugh, was surprised to see both the picture and Haddon's statement. The photograph showed the spot where a protective metal plate on the door jamb had fallen off months before the murder. She had seen the plate become looser until one day it fell off, revealing the same marks that she now saw in the photograph. Hoffmann-Pugh had taken the plate to Patsy, who wasn't concerned enough to have it replaced. The detached plate had sat on a shelf in the hallway near the kitchen. Now Hoffmann-Pugh wondered if the police had discovered it and made the connection."

1999 October 30 Pam Paugh Q&A
WebbSleuths Forum:

Question from KathyK: "I also would like to know anything she can tell us about the Santa Bear. Does she definately remember seeing the bear when she went to get stuff from the house, or does she just sort of think she remembers seeing it. Did the cops ever take it into evidence? Is it really missing? - how hard did the Ramseys look for it - could it just be in boxes that were packed up. Do they have the other things that were in the cops picture - like that fancy barbie doll?"

Pam Paugh:
"I do remember seeing the Bear on the secondary bed in JonBenet's room on 12/28/96. I do not know where the Bear is now. I am told that the BPD have confirmed the source of the sales point for that model Bear. I wonder if they have subpoenaed sales/shipping records and done a "search of transfer."

2000 March 18
John and Patsy Ramsey book
"Death of Innocence"

DOI (HB) Page 188:

"One day I was driving through the small downtown area in Charlevoix and all these thoughts were playing over and over in my mind. I pulled into the corner 7-Eleven, where JonBenet had often walked with twenty-five cents in her pocket to buy gum or candy, and I went inside to buy a pack of cigarettes.

I had smoked once at a slumber party in the ninth grade and a little bit when I worked at Hayes, but not since then. Now I said defiantly to myself, I'm going to smoke until they find the killer.

I knew this was pure rebellion. I felt so out of control. People were telling me what to do, where to go, whom to talk to, whom not to talk to. They meant well, but I felt less and less like an adult who could manage her own life.

After that I smoke occasionally for about a year or so. Then I finally realized I was not hurting the killer or the media. I was hurting no one but myself. I quit."

2000 March 18
John and Patsy Ramsey book
"Death of Innocence"

DOI (HB) Page 234:

"John and I wrote message of appreciation to our friends to be printed on the back of the liturgy of the day. We thanked the people for their support through the past year and expressed how much their love had meant to us. We also commended on the meaning of the Christmas season and why it was important to remember the real season we celebrate this time of the year. In composing this expression of appreciation, John and I had each written a version. With both copies in hand, John dictated and I typed at the computer as we merged the two into one. Later Susan Stine and Roxy Walker made a few edits as they type it into the liturgical program.
This edited version included the phrase and, hence. Those two words turned out to be the next bombshell!"

"Actually, I have no idea why we used that phrase.
Maybe we'd seen it so many times in reading the ransom note - and having to write it over and over again for the police - that it became a part of our own subconscious vocabulary. Who know? Then again, maybe people everywhere use the phrase and, hence everyday of the week, because it's a normal part of the English language. The fact we used any set of words in our statement meant nothing more than an attempt to convey our personal feelings at the moment we were writing."

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 44:

"Among the items police now sought were the possible bludgeon that caused the head wound and any dark fabric that might account for the fibers found on the body.
A red clay brick that appeared to have fibers stuck to it was retrieved from the living rooom fireplace."

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 37:

"Outside, a detective examined the steel grate that covered the window well and
found undisturbed cobwebs still attached from the grate to the bricks. The foliage around the grate also appeared undisturbed."

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 44:

"They were also looking for traces of semen, and in the victim's bedroom, ultraviolet light showed stains on the bed and surrounding carpet.
The mattress was wrapped in plastic."

"Detectives going through the house
noted cobwebs in the tracks of various windows and found some windows painted closed. Dust and debris had gathered on other sills, giving no indication of forced entry. Some curious pry marks were found on a back door, but more and more, except for the broken window in the basement, it looked as thought the big house had been locked up tight the night before."

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 195:

"One of the two possible basement-level points of entry was a north-east corner foot-square window into a bathroom.
Smit, examining a photograph with his magnifying glass, thought he had seen a thumbprint in the thick layer of dust on the exterior sill. We argued that it wasn't a print at all. 'Then he wore gloves,' Smit concluded. Sergeant Wickman retorted that someone needed a 'magic X-ray wand' to unlock that window from the outside. The carpet of pine needles and the dirt around the window were intact, and photos from December 27 showed the window secured and undamaged. A vanity shelf just inside was undisturbed."

04-18-2000 Steve Thomas, "JonBenet, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation"

Page 195:

"As the press watched and cameras clicked, we tested it for possible entry. Wickman wiggled through head first on his stomach and had to use his hands to grab overhead pipes and lever himself in. Smit managed to slither in on his back. Both dragged significant amounts of debris in with them, and no such debris was found during the original search.
The techs had found no unknown prints when they dusted the pipes that Wickman grasped to make his entry. Even Lou Smit eventually admitted that the small window wasn't a possible point of entry for an intruder."

2000 May 9 - Live Chat with former Detective Steve Thomas on About.com

crimeADM: "We've been told that the paperback will include several corrections. Anything of substance?"

SteveThomas: "One item -- page 44, a last minute mistake --
ballbat with hair on it should read "golfclub with hair on it", found outside on west side of house. ballbat found in north yard. other corrections are minor, grammar, etc A second notation in hypothesis includes fact that Patsy had alcohol to drink at White's party that night. I also add the names of still more BPD officers, great cops, who have quietly resigned."

2000 May 9 - Live Chat with former Detective Steve Thomas on About.com

crimeADM: "There was a letter from Shreveport LA from a pageant mom; how far was that investigated?"

"Shreveport letter -- short and sweet, a former friend of Patsy's, she wrote, saying we needed to look more at JR and PR early in the case. Some hints and innuendoes. nothing case breaking"

2000 July 19 - The 700 Club - Scott Ross Interview with John and Patsy Ramsey

Scott Ross: John you have been accused of molesting your daughter.

John Ramsey: That was extremely hurtful to me.

Scott Ross: You were a sexual deviate you would go these porn places? What about that?

John Ramsey: They are lies, that is all I could say. First of all, I loved my daughters. I had 3 wonderful daughters. I would give my life for them. But I wish the killer would have taken me that night instead of JonBenet. To accuse me of doing anything but protecting my daughter as any father would, any good father would, it isn’t warranted. I happened to be watching television when this fellow from the National Enquirer was being quoted, "We saw John Ramsey going into a porn shop a week after his daughter was murdered. We have that as a fact". That is a fraudulent lie, unless they call the 7-11 store a porn shop. Which is how a tabloid justifies their statements.

Scott Ross: Those were proven to be lies? There’s no record of your going to buy porn films or rent them?

John Ramsey: I would stake my life on that.

2000 "The Cases That Haunt Us" by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker

Page 298

"Upon meeting John Ramsey, I informed him who I was, shook his hand, and expressed my sorrow for his loss. As it turned out, there was some significance to the fact that neither he nor Patsy knew who I was. Subsequent to this, several sources, including Detective Steve Thomas, reported that Mindhunter, the first book I wrote with Mark, was on John Ramsey's nightstand. In this book we deal with staging crime scenes, and some speculated that one or both of the Ramseys had read it and "learned" how to outwit investigators to make it look as if someone from outside had killed their child. First, I have to say that they--or anyone else--would not have learned this from reading the book. We didn't write a how-to-course, and any good investigator would see right through such a primitive attempt. Morover, much as we would like to think that everyone has read our books and knows who we are,
Mindhunter was not there on John's nightstand or elsewhere in the house, and I looked through the place pretty carefully. Believe me, as an author you learn to spot your books anywhere and everywhere. And it was not on the long police list of items removed from the house, although a "Dave Barry book about cyberspace" was. This is just one small example of the mountain of erroneous information that has come out about this case. While I understand that John read Mindhunter after meeting me, he was completely unfamiliar with my work at the time of the crime."

July 11, 2001 British Documentary, 'Who Killed The Pageant Queen?'produced by David Mills and Michael Tracey

LOU SMIT: "I've been a detective for 32 years, I've never given out police evidence. In this case I am. And I know that there will be a great deal of criticism, but I am ready to take the heat."

NARRATOR: "During his 32-year career, Smit investigated over 200 murders. He solved over 90 per cent of them. He never lost a case in court. Smit spent his career investigating violent death for the Colorado Springs Police Department, DA's office and coroner. His last job was running murder investigations for the El Paso County Sheriff's Dept - one of the largest police forces in Colorado."

NARRATOR : "Smit arrived in Boulder, driving his family's camper van, three months after the killing. His task, to investigate the murder for the DA's office and to liase with the separate police team. He didn't think it would take long."

LOU SMIT: "When you're not in on a crime scene you do miss out on quite a bit of the feelings that you get during the initial investigation. That's where photographs really do come in. The Boulder Police Department did take some great photographs. I did spend a great deal of time inspecting each and every one of those photographs and they did tell me a story."

July 11, 2001 British Documentary, 'Who Killed The Pageant Queen?'produced by David Mills and Michael Tracey

SMIT: "There's very strong evidence that JonBenét was killed in this part of the basement and one of the reasons for that is that there was a paint tray right there and in this paint tray was a paintbrush that was used to make the garrotte. The bristle portion was still in the tray. Right next to the paint tray is a very small sliver of wood that came off of that broken brush. The garrotte was made of the middle portion of that paintbrush, the handle. Her hair was actually entwined right in the wrappings of the garrotte as the killer made it right on the back of her neck, most likely when she was lying face down on the floor. He made a noose on the other end of this garrotte. Then this noose was pulled very tightly against the neck of JonBenét, almost like a control device, almost like you were controlling a pet or a dog. Her killer has a fantasy in his mind of what he wants to do with this garrotte."

October 4, 2002 8pm DST CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "But what about the fibers from Patsy Ramsey's jacket that police say were in the paint tray and on the sticky side of duct tape covering JonBenet's mouth"

Erin Moriarty:
"Is there a fact that there were fibers consistent with Patsy Ramsey's jacket incrementing?"

Lou Smit:

Erin Moriarty: "But does that shake your faith that the Ramsey's were not involved?"

Lou Smit:
"No, you just can't rely on fiber evidence because fibers could come off the jacket or something similar to the jacket."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Once more says Smit there were also dozens of unidentified fibers that didn't come from the Ramsey's and Smit is unaware of a single case where a parent used a garrote like this to kill a child."

Lou Smit: "This is one of the best clues left behind by the killer. This shows what's going on in his mind. This is a sexual device. He's a pedophile who's a sexual sadist. That's what Lou Smit's looking for."

April 30, 2001

Contact: Jana Petersen, Media Relations, (303) 441-3090
Jennifer Bray, Media Relations, (303) 441-3090


Ramsey case update #81

Chief Mark Beckner responds to media questions about Lou Smit's television appearance

In response to questions about Lou Smit and his Ramsey case theories, the Boulder Police Department believes it would be improper to debate the merits of the evidence in the public arena.

Both Police and District Attorney investigators have been aware of Lou Smit's theories and interpretation of the evidence since 1997. Lou Smit left the investigation in the fall of 1998 and has not been involved for the last 2 ˝ years of ongoing investigation. The case and development of evidence has changed significantly over that period of time.

"We certainly do not know what Mr. Smit hopes to accomplish, but we do not wish to have public debate about what evidence we do and do not have," Chief Mark Beckner said. "We will simply continue to do the work we've been doing."

Current facts and figures related to the investigation are as follows:

Number of people formally interviewed to date: More than 600.
Note: Many have been interviewed more than one time.
Number of outside experts and consultants utilized to date: More than 60.
Number of persons investigated as possible suspects to date: About 140.
Number of items of evidence logged into property to date: About 1,400.
Approximate size of investigative case file to date: About 40,000 pages.
Number of phone tips: About 5,200
Number of letters received in reference to Ramsey case: More than 3,500.
Number of states investigation has taken Boulder Police to: 17
There will be no further comments by the Police Department.

City of Boulder

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